NGD! 2010 Trad Pro...and an Introduction.

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  1. Danomyte

    Danomyte Member

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    Hey y'all,

    It's been ten years since I last owned an electric guitar. In that time I've been to Afghanistan and become a father, among many other adventures. I clung to my acoustic and found myself trying to bang out Zep licks on my poor sweet '74 guild D35. I started to feel bad about that--she's a sweet old lady and deserves to play gently and melodically. It was time for a change. Doctor James Page has always been a hero of mine and I figured it was time an electric again--an electric like Jimmy's.

    So I began my quest, trying to understand differences in LP models and years. I thought I wanted a burst, until I saw this vision in the back of my local guitar shop:
    It was a 2010 Trad Pro in Wine Red. She wasn't like the other guitars; she was mysterious and moody. She stared at me from across the floor with dusky, seductive eyes. I was immediately taken with her. I plugged her into a Marshall at the shop, turned up the gain and played Black Dog. I loved her. I forced my credit card into their hands; I never stood a chance.

    I took her home and we became inseparable. My wife and kids were neglected and the dog went unfed.

    But then I realized that she had been loved before. In fact, when I calmed down and started to look at it under bright lights I found that most of the metal was corroding. And not in a cool, sort of relic-y way, but there was literal corrosion on the bridge, tailpiece, jackplate, pickups, switches, and strap buttons...basically all of the metal surfaces. The metal had pitted and turned an awful blueish brown, straight rusting in some areas. How had I not noticed this in the shop? :facepalm: In the words of the great Percy Sledge: "Loving eyes can never see." I talked to the guys at the guitar shop and they were apologetic and explained that sometimes people have acidic/corrosive sweat that can break down the metals, and that that was probably the case with the previous owner. I never asked for a return or refund. I didn't want to part with my new guitar.

    However, something had to be done. I ordered replacements for the bridge, tailpiece, jackplate, and strap buttons. I used Schaller parts. This was easy enough. The rusted pickups created an interesting opportunity however. I guess I could have just scrubbed the old pups, or replaced with exactly what was in it. But, I thought, what if, what if I went hotter? What if I went meaner? After some searching I found the Whole Lotta pickups set by Seymour Duncan. I read all about them on message boards and I was ready to try them out. Of course these were the right pickups....it's in the name, right? I was also paranoid that the corrosion had found its way into the internal electronics. I thought maybe as long as I was doing a complete overhaul, new wiring might be in order. :hmm:I did a lot of research and considered a 21 tone Jimmy Page wiring kit. After all, that was the end goal, simply to become Page. ;) However, I finally decided that I didn't particularly like the coil-split that came on the trad pro anyway (It sounded weak to me....one day I'll just buy a tele (butterscotch blonde)) so no coil splitting for me. I decided to go with the '59 kit by jonesyblues.com. CTS 550K pots and LUXE .022 Paper in Oil Bees. I thought the kit would help me get the most out of the guitar and the pickups and to get the sound I was after.

    I waited until all the parts came in, and then I went by the guitar shop to have everything put in. I anxiously waited for three days while my baby underwent major surgery. The guild came back out and I came up with a cool acoustic version of The Lemon Song. I stopped by the guitar shop a couple times to check on progress. They looked at me like I was crazy. But then finally, on the third day, I got the call. She was ready. I picked her up and was blinded by the light coming off of the new pup covers.

    They asked me if I wanted to play it, I said no and brought her home. At home I spent some time first just staring and admiring. I think just aesthetically, it was a huge improvement. The new hardware and pickups looked so much better:
    I opened the back and there were the bees just buzzing around in their new home.
    Then I plugged in. This is hard to describe. It sounded great initially. But now, now it was Hammer Of The Gods. It mule-kicked and bull-whipped its way through the minor pentatonic. It would've been interesting to have done the pups and wiring separately to note the differences each made. Maybe another time. But together, they were an otherworldly force. The tone is there on a hare's breath and uber responsive to my touch. It wails like a banshee. The sustain went from great to amazing: Some times in the morning I wake up and play a bend on the 14th fret, I go to work, eat lunch, finish work, come home, make dinner and put the kids to bed and then I pick up the guitar to finish the note. I will also add that when I first got the guitar the bottom end was no good. Period. It was mushy and lacked articulation. The new pup/wiring combo cleaned that right up.

    Anyway, suffice it to say, I'm a happy camper. I think about my guitar all day. I was grateful to find mylespaul and communicate with like minded individuals. I'm glad to be here. Thanks for reading my story.


    Peace,

    Dan
     
  2. Fuggle

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    Man, that story is poetry!
     
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    ...and thanks for telling it.

    I love that wine red, it's a very sharp looking guitar. Seymour Duncan pick-ups have always sounded fantastic to my ears, but I've never tried the "Whole Lotta" pick-ups, I'm glad that you like them though. And the best part is that you get to corrode the hardware from scratch!

    Congrats, and have fun!
     
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    Sweet Wine LP.
     
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    Congrats. Wine Red always looks great on an LP.

    I also have the same model Trad Pro but mine is a Goldtop. There was an initial run of 100 Goldtops, which would have made them a rare model, but I understand at some point after that, tGibson introduced Goldtop as a standard color on TP's and that Wine Red came out about that same time. So our guitars are fairly closely related either way and somewhat rare at least among the Trad Pro's.

    I pretty much share your opinions of the guitar. Mine sounds great as is, but my Traditional with Sheptones an 50's harness "goes to 11" in comparison. I also agree that the coil split is but an ersatz version of single coil goodness. However, in a cover band situation it does get me closer to the pin than not having coil splitting and I only have to tote one axe, so after much deliberation I've decided to leave her as is.

    Again Congrats on a great Les Paul!
     
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    Great guitar with a nice story. HNGD and welcome to te he forum.
     
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    Mighty Mighty fine Lester, and cool story too. Very happy for ya
     
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    Very nice. I was never a fan of wine red until I saw it in the flesh. I don't own one, but I'm a convert!
     
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    Very nice looking LP
     
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    A while back when I was just getting back to trying to learn guitar and my financial position was not what it is now, a used Wine Red Studio sitting in a local shop was my holy grail guitar.

    I know in the world of LP's a Wine Red Studio isn't all that but that guitar had something about it. Mojo, gravitas, whatever you wanna call it and I kept going back to it but just didn't have the wallet for it. Then I'd go play various Epiphone's hoping this model or that would strike me, but it never happened. The Wine Red got away, I ended up going through a couple of other guitars before finding a Silverburst Studio Deluxe as my first, which was always just the least bad option I could find and afford. I loved it, but it eventually went away to fund the Trad Pro.

    I think that is why a Wine Red Lester with cream plastic will get me sprung every time.
     
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    I heard it through the great wine! ;)

    Congrats, man!
     
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    HNGD, Great story and congrats on a beautiful guitar.
     
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    Great looker!

    HNGD :cheers2:
     
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    HNGD! FWIW, I don't think I had seen a Wine Standard until I got my '80 (that was looooong before all the available guitar porn online).
     
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    Cool story with a happy ending and a beautiful guitar :thumb:

    Congrats and HNGD :applause:
     
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    like the wine red. bought one myself but they didnt actually have them so they sent me a honey burst instead. still want a wine red lp though.
     
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    Very cool red guitar (with awesome pickups- love the WLHs)!
     
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    Awesome guitar and story Dan, thanks for sharing. I'm glad to hear that she came through the surgery in great shape. I too had had electric guitars years ago, but had been playing an acoustic for a long time. I'd always dreamed of owning a Gibson Les Paul and finally got one a few weeks ago, a 2017 Tribute T in honeyburst. It's not the looker that yours is, but I love it. It was a long time coming, but worth the wait.

    Congrats on your new guitar and:welcome:
     
  19. 1all's Pub

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    Great story... you clearly have a creative flair! ;)

    Gorgeous Trad Pro. I recently acquired a 2009 Trad Pro, great guitars. HNGD! Enjoy her! :D
     

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