New recording

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  1. kfowler8

    kfowler8 Senior Member

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    I had a couple of buds I play with regularly come over Saturday to jam some. I had the mics set up on the drum kit so we decided to record the last jam.

    [SC]https://soundcloud.com/kfowler8/march-2017-jam-v2[/SC]

    Couple of things I learned:

    I had an extra speaker running out of the bass cab facing the drummer as a reference. That worked great for jamming but was a nightmare for mixing. It was right beside the drum set so the OH picked up all the bass.

    I tried a technique with the bass that I really liked. I made a copy of the bass track and then distorted the hell out of it and put a high pass and low pass filter on both ends. I then adjusted it so that it was about 10 dBs lower than the original bass track. You can really hear it at the beginning. It adds kind of a distorted fuzz to the bass. Subtle but I do like it.

    I used a stereo OH configuration for the drums. I was using the Glyn Johns technique before. I think I may actually like the Glyn Johns better. This is something I want to experiment with. I like the stereo effect of the wider OH but I think the Johns technique sounded better.

    Let me know what you think.
     
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    DarrellV 1 Year old and 8K this month or bust! Premium Member

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    Always give your drummer headphones!

    record all instruments with scratch drummer track.

    Play tracks through drummer headphones, (no 1 above) and record drums.

    But, srsly, I like the progression!

    Oh, and the bass effect. I may have to steal it, hee hee!
     
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    kfowler8 Senior Member

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    This is where I actually got it from:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3iwNLIgtK0&t=238s[/ame]
     
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    Cleaned up a couple of things last night and re-posted a newer version.
     
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    DarrellV 1 Year old and 8K this month or bust! Premium Member

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    It's like you're reading a page out of my mind....

    That's a really cool diddy!

    Drums are more controlled this time, but IMO the fuzz effect is too loud now, almost equal to the dry signal.

    I would be interested to hear how it sounded if you panned the dry bass to one side a bit and put the fuzz on a medium rotary pan effect, and maybe even throw in a flanger (oooo :hmm:) just during the bass solo drum punch sections.

    Just needs a little sweetening in the mastering to really make it shine!
     
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    Hmm. I'll have to look at that. I didn't change any of the levels for the bass. I mainly edited out flubs or where I thought the part didn't work. For instance there were 1/2 note bass kick hits during the solo section that were a little off. I edited those out to make them just whole notes.

    I also chopped off the delay on the first distorted guitar hits so it was insync with the crash cymbols.

    Something I used this time that was a first was a gate on some of the drum mics. That was really cool.

    Again the OH were a real pain to edit around since any change I made with another part, I had to edit it out of the OH as well without affecting the cymbals. E.g. the edited bass kick was in the OH as well.
     
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    DarrellV 1 Year old and 8K this month or bust! Premium Member

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    Yup, I noticed that the timing was tightened up a bit too.

    It may be the cleanup just emphasized the original levels more.

    Have you tried putting a gate on the overheads but setting the filter to only respond above the tom / snare frequency?

    I have also put an EQ on the overhead tracks and just dumped the lows right off in a sharp curve.

    Put this ahead of the gate.

    Then it was easier for the gate to hear the tom /snare and cymbals, and I could adjust accordingly.
     
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    That's a great idea. I'll try that.
     

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