New Gibson Winter NAMM Models Announced

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  1. Sharp

    Sharp Senior Member

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    Is it too soon to be wistful for 'ole J.? I own 4 gibson products from his era; '87 studio standard LP; '04 LP Special Faded DC; '11 335, and a 2012 trad GT. Great guitars that I gig all the time. Just saying.
     
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    mrfett Gibson AF Premium Member

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    From what they were saying at NAMM, Custom Shop guitars can be ordered now, USA models are coming in a couple months.
     
  3. Malchik

    Malchik Senior Member

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    Might see if I can get a Les Paul Custom quote.
     
  4. moreles

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    Doesn't Richlite use a synthetic bonding agent (AKA "plastic") for its fibers? I honestly don't care when a builder uses "different" materials as lon=g as they provide an accurate, non-hyped description of the stuff. The "old" Gibson was famous for foising stuff on consumers and describing it -- Richlite, roasted maple -- as some miracle improvement. I think most people are fine with honest information, and it does look like the new guys are straightforward, and good listeners.
     
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    Is that a USA junior or Custom Shop JR?? the Custom shop JR is now $3799 (yikes)
     
  6. ehb

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    I like the bakelite boards and BBQ maple....

    Bakelites are paper sheets infused with resin and cured under a lot of pressure and heat.... Consistency waaaaay beyond ANY natural wood.... Ain't going anywhere, ain't gonna wear out...

    Copy paste stuff below...

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    (Richlite)

    Richlite is an incredibly durable, extremely versatile, and highly sustainable material made from resin-infused paper. ... Composed of approximately 65% FSC®-certified or recycled paper content and 35% phenolic resin, Richlite's color comesfrom a combination of the paper and the amber tone of the resin.

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    (Resin stuff)

    Since 1907, when Leo Baekeland synthesized the first manmade thermosetting plastic, the Bakelite brand has stood for the finest phenolic resins and molding compounds – backed by the best technical and formulation support in the world. There’s no better material than Bakelite phenolic resins when your application requires:

    • Remarkable heat resistance
    • Surface hardness
    • Dimensional stability
    • Chemical resistance and
    • Electrical insulating properties

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    (BBQ maple is torrefied maple, Aging wood without age)

    That process is called torrefaction. The result - torrefied wood - is sometimes also referred to as roasted or tempered.

    In a nutshell, torrefaction involves heating wood in the absence of oxygen to remove water and volatiles. Electric guitar necks have been getting this treatment from certain builders for some time, making them lighter, stiffer and more resistant to temperature and humidity changes.

    When applied to new acoustic guitar tops, torrefaction gives them a similar molecular composition - and therefore tonal response - to vintage guitars tops after decades of aging.
     
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    Has anyone thought of the possibility of torrefied mahogany, for use as bodies and necks, and torrefied maple for the tops? I wonder if that would bring us closer to vintage tone.
     
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    Makes sense... Once the wood is torrefied, it's not gonna change....
     
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  9. TarNhaK

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    i have the 2018 gibson tribute gold top and i think the 2019 tribute is a downgrade
     
  10. Macronaut

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    How so?
     
  11. TarNhaK

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    2018 Trapezoid inlay vs 2019 dots
    2018 no Weight Relief (i love that) vs 2019 Ultra-Modern Weight Relief
    2018 490R and 498T vs 2019 490R and 490T
    2018 gold top vs 2019 no more gold top
     
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  12. afjungemann

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    Are you looking at the 2019 line announced at namm specs? There are essentially 2 2019 lines at this point, the 2019s they announced last fall and the namm 2019s. The namm 2019s are the ones people are discussing as the return to form.
     
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    the 2019 namm tribute is the one i talk
     
  14. ThroBak

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    We did a video of our experience at the Gibson 2019 NAMM both. We left impressed.

     
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    That is odd then indeed!
     
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    Are those 2020 models? I assume so. (So both on the website and stores they don't exist now.)

    What an awkwardness that they had to present those now because of their ridiculous line-up from this summer.

    Still the latest presented lineup is the right direction for Gibson.
     
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    Not 2020. There won’t be anymore year designations.
     
  18. zanshin777

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    I said 2020 because on 2019 summer there won't be presented any models and these ones will drops on store on late 2019's.

    "There won't be anymore year designations."

    They most probably will make changes like colors or other small changes. (Because all other brands do. Changes create an expectation and interest. So I think they'll do.)
     
  19. Greg's Guitars

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    Hopefully the Les pauls will have the 50 era deep dish carves on top as well.
     
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