New Edwards LP-130 with Pics

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  1. gibiphone

    gibiphone Senior Member

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    My Edwards LP-130 got here 5 days ago, so I have had a chance to get acquainted before writing this critique. Bottom line first. . .this thing rocks, its all I expected, with only a few minor negatives. The guitar is very light, but this does not detract from it’s sustain or low end sound. The entire guitar resonates nicely with each note or chord played, very lively. As you can see in the pics, the long tenon goes clear through the pickup cavity. The Seymour Duncan Antiquities give this LP the vintage sound I have been chasing—not as muddy as an Epiphone Custom, but not as hot and aggressive as my SG 490/498 setup. Also as you can see in the pics, the electronics are first rate. The nitro finish is well applied and not overdone. This guitar is almost a year old according to its serial number so the nitro isn’t so “wet”. The overall factory setup of the guitar was very good—of course a luthier could do better. These are the positive things with the guitar:
    - 1 piece African mahogany body (no weight relief)
    - 1 piece neck - the same wood as the body with rosewood fingerboard.
    - Deep neck joint and the long tenon
    - Neck shape in between 50 chunky and 60 slim
    - Solid maple
    - Flame maple veneer
    - Bone nut
    - The only Edwards model to offer an all-nitro finish
    - Seymour Duncan Antiquity pickups
    - 4 CTS 500k-A pots, 2 foil and oil capacitors, Switchcraft 3 way switch.
    - Gotoh Tune-O-Matic bridge with Gotoh stop tailpiece (both lightweight aluminum)
    - Gotoh Kluson Deluxe tuners

    Now for the negatives. It’s been lightly relic’ed. I don’t like relic’ing and never will, but it was the only way I could get an Edwards built to these specs, so I will live with it. The relic’ing is inconsistent. Duncans are very aged, the Gotohs are not. The wear on the body has been nitro’d over, and not left uncovered. The plastic covers and pickguard are not first rate, and the covers are not properly sized for the holes. It came with a gig bag rather than a hard case. A couple very minor points, the strings needed immediate replacement and the fretboard needed oiling.

    I bought the guitar from Apollon Music, also known on the web as guitarjapan

    The guitar was shipped quickly and was packed well; double boxed and triple bubble wrapped, plus being in the gig bag. Late at night here, when the store was open in Japan, my emails were responded to within a couple hours almost as if using messenger.

    Its all about tone, and this Edwards brings it.

    Gibiphone

    Just north of the mexican line

    This is how she arrived
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    I lifted the neck Duncan to find the tenon passing through the entire cavity
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    here you see the thickness of the maple cap
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    nice electronics
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    oh my
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  2. goofballone

    goofballone Senior Member

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    Very, Very nice. I like that control cavity, Very clean.
    I think you got a great guitar there.

    Congrats!!
     
  3. classic

    classic Senior Member

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    Congrats on that Beauty ... :applause::applause:

    I don't like relics as well --- that's the reason why I went for the 98 LTS - immaculate finish except a 'used' appearance of the pup covers ... so I think you can't complain ...
    What you've spent more for the 130 I could invest for the upgrade to the 'better' stuff ... :naughty:

    ... and the Gigbag is Standard for Edwards ...
     
  4. gibiphone

    gibiphone Senior Member

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    I agree, except you can't "upgrade" the 'nitro over poly' finish on the 98LTS. That's why I went with the 130.

    gibiphone

    just north of the mexican line
     
  5. classic

    classic Senior Member

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    RIGHT ... if it is so different in reality ... :)
     
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    arcanis494 V.I.P. Member

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    That is gorgeous!
    :wow:

    :applause:
     
  7. kec

    kec Senior Member

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    C'mon Gibi, we need a full frontal shot of her - from head to toe :laugh2:

    Nice find!
     
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    mrpesca Senior Member

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    Very nice guitar. I never even took the plastic off my ESP gig bag. I just went to MF and got an ESP hard case (130 Bucks) for their Eclipse model for my 98-lts. It fits a little tight but I wanted it to be ESP because to the best of my knowledge Edwards does not have a hard case. Congrats on the beautiful new machine.
     
  9. tonebone

    tonebone Senior Member

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    The best fitting case would be a Navigator HC. HC-250NLP

    Spendy, but prob the best fit for an Edwards.
     
  10. gibiphone

    gibiphone Senior Member

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    Thanks all. I did have to take the plastic off the gig bag cause the guitar was inside. Will post a full frontal tomorrow as requested. :)

    gibiphone

    just north of the mexican line
     
  11. lifele55

    lifele55 Senior Member

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    Nice guitar gibi.. now you've stepped it up. ;)

    Nice find my friend :D
     
  12. gibiphone

    gibiphone Senior Member

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    Thanks Life, my friend. I know that you are not far behind. In fact, didn't you report an impending gas attack. . .? :)

    gibiphone

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    gibiphone Senior Member

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    OK, as you requested :)

    gibiphone

    just north of the mexican line

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    :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

    Nice flame!
     
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    lifele55 Senior Member

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    Ai yes. GAS is always present.. but I'm restricted financially, so that'll have to wait.
     
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    vaibhav Senior Member

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    Hi
    I'd like to understand the following:

    - Is their any tonal difference between 98 & 130 except for different pickups.
    - Why does a Nitro finish win over poly ?

    I've personally liked the CS finish on 98 lts but wonder if it has same material and electronics as 130 ( except p/u).
    Please suggest.
     
  17. classic

    classic Senior Member

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    The same material - YES ... but not the same electronics ...
    The 98 will come with ceramic caps, cheaper toggle switch and pots and it hasn't got the 2-conductor braided shield wires ...
    An upgrade is a MUST to get what you want tonewise ...
    I've replaced the complete stuff and changed to 50's wiring ...

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  18. gibiphone

    gibiphone Senior Member

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    The Edwards LP98 is a very good guitar but I don't have enough experience with one to to do a direct comparison with an LP130. I do not believe that the 98 has CTS 500k-A pots, foil and oil capacitors, Switchcraft 3 way switch, or the lightweight aluminum Gotoh Tune-O-Matic bridge with Gotoh stop tailpiece. Others will correct if I'm wrong.

    As far as nitro vs poly, the argument runs like this:
    Nitrocellulose is often called a "thin skin" as it really allows the guitar to resonate freely. It has a superior feel and a super glossy look to it. Poly is almost like a thin layer of plastic and in effect hermetically seals the wood. It feels tacky, slows your movement on the neck, and doesn't allow the guitar to resonate very well. Most companies use poly because its faster and cheaper to work with. Nitrocellulose lacquer continues to evaporate over its life ensuring the thinnest possible finish that will never dampen vibrations and supports complex musical waveforms and allows for an open, airy tone. You'll find a nitro finish on nearly all vintage and collectible American guitars and on most of the top grades of Japanese manufacture. As with most things in life, you will have to decide for yourself if this is important to you.

    hope this helps. :)

    gibiphone

    just north of the mexican line
     
  19. Vintage_Burster

    Vintage_Burster Senior Member

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    Very nice! BTW whats a Verneer? Damn, Id almost say that matches a Gibson! Deffiantly more impressive than what Epiphone has to offer.
     
  20. gibiphone

    gibiphone Senior Member

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    veneer refers to thin slices of wood, usually thinner than 3 mm (1/8 inch), that are typically glued onto core bodies for appearance. Go here to see the process:

    Project Guitar :: Adding a Figured Wood Veneer Top

    gibiphone

    just north of the mexican line
     

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