New '58 Korina V

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  1. charlie chitlins

    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    This just showed up...used.
    Got a pretty good deal with hard case.
    Definitely veneer.
    I already put a .022 tone cap in and switched to '50's wiring.
    Haven't even plugged it in yet, but I've done this enough times.
    Also melted a buncha wax out of the pickups...hopefully to make some space between the cover and the bobbins and get some microphonics going.
    Plays beautifully.
    No fret sprout after oiling the VERY thirsty board.
    NOT a slim taper.
    Nice handful and 1 11/16" nut.
    A bit heavier than my Gibson V...I'll have to get them on the scale.
    Nice balance...no neck dive.
    Whatever the fretboard is, it does not have open pores like rosewood. It's real dark and slick.
    Looks/feels deluxe, like ebony.
    Any idea what it is?
    Maybe a baked wood.
    I'll get back on the sound.
    Not real high expectations for the pickups.
    My Gibson has a Duncan '59 and a Pearly and sounds great.
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    Bobby Mahogany Senior Member

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    Seems interesting enough!
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  3. charlie chitlins

    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    So far, the pickups seem good...
    The neck is a little microphonic and has some nice honk (and I flipped it so the poles are closer to the bridge), but no microphonics from the bridge. I'll hit it with the blowdryer next string change.
    Tone control is weird...not at all gradual, and when it's off, all the sound goes off.
    Gotta check my others with 50s wiring.
    The V diagram I found was new to me with the cap wired to the center tap of the switch.
     
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    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    Someone thought the fretboard might be baked cherry.
    Anybody heard of this.
    I've worked with cherry, and it looks like it.
    Super tight grain.
     
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    Thumpalumpacus Senior Member

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    I've never heard of Epi using baked cherry. If you say it ain't rosewood, it ain't rosewood, you've been around the block a long time ... but I've seen rosewood with really tight grain too.

    Maybe a better pic of the fretboard could help?

    Congrats on a nice score, and make 'er sing!
     
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    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    Here's a good pic.
    Rosewood has something of an open grain like mahogany or oak.
    There appears to be a little of this around the 8th fret, but it's exaggerated in the pic.
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    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    Been playing this one every chance I get.
    I even like the "cheap" tuners better than the weird cast ones on my 50s Trib.
    6.25#
    It's looking more and more like this one is the keeper and the Gibson V will go down the road.
     
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    Welcome to the club! I got one last summer and love it! Playable as the day is long.

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    Mine's been one of my 3 go-to guitars since I got when they first came out. I agree, after all these years the tuners are still spot on.
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    Stinky Kitty Senior Member

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    Love my Epi Korina V!

    As it arrived, Bridge mount studs corrected, and brass saddles added my MLP forum bro who sold it to me. It was wired with a volume and tone pots, and a preset tone switch:

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    After dropping in a set of MHD Straitjackets and rewiring it to stock V. PO also buffed off the gold plating on the tail piece. I was fortunate to receive this one with good mods.

    It's a sweet playing tone monster!

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    PO had a Gibson TRC that is flipped over in the top pic, and removed in the bottom one.

    I prefer the natural finish, and have been tempted to strip this one down for an oil finish. Yet, its vibe is a cozy bad ass black to me, so stock it remains for now..
     
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    It's interesting to see that Epi has moved the bridge PU closer to bridge (more correct) than the earlier versions. I did that on mine, routed a little closer to the bridge and then made the black pickguard to cover up the little bit of original rout that was peeking out.
     
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    Thumpalumpacus Senior Member

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    I'm no expert, but my guess is stained rosewood.

    Whatever it is, 'grats on your score.
     
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    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    How are the bridge mount studs corrected?
    I just flipped mine upside down because I'm not used to seeing (or needing) the screwdriver slots.
     
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    I think Epi didn't use an insert on the treble side. This one has inserts on both sides and (I think) an upgraded bridge, in addition to the brass saddles.

    Found the explanation straight from the source, "I had the same issue on the same guitar. the post that goes thru the pickguard just goes into the wood with no metal bushing. So, what I ended up doing was installing larger bushings, with new studs and posts. Quite a bit more work, but the bridge ended up straight and solid. I drilled a bigger hole thru the pickguard for the whole circumference of the bushing."
     
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    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    Mine has 2 threaded inserts.
    Some are threaded into the wood.
    It's no biggy.
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    Stinky Kitty Senior Member

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    Beautiful guitar!

    Yes, no biggie until the threads waggle loose.

    On most stock Epis, there is only one post stud. The other side is the thumbwheel screw. You are fortunate to have one with inserts on both ends..
     
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    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    For TOM bridges, I like to get a 2nd set of thumbwheels and run them right down to the body to keep everything tight and well-supported.
     
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    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    OK...I finally gigged it....is it possible for a guitar to sound dull and lifeless through a '58 5F6A Bassman.
    I wouldn't have thought so until last night.
    I pulled out the old Kay and everything smoked again.
     

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    I don't get this. First you melt wax out of the pick up so that it IS microphonic, than post a "complaint" that the pick up is microphonic. A microphonic pick up is not usually considered desirable.
     
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    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    I don't even understand where your perception that I complained about microphonics comes from.
    I clearly stated I was hoping to make the pickups more microphonic, and had a little success.
    Getting the wax from between the bobbins and the cover helps.
    This condition is not usually considered desirable because pickup manufacturers want to wax pot to keep complaints down.
    There are relatively rare occasions where an old pickup becomes so microphonic that it can't be used.
    I've had guitars where I could talk into the pickup and it came out the amp and learned to position myself onstage so they wouldn't squeal.
    I've never heard anybody complain about microphonics in a PAF.
    Having a little microphone in the guitar helps the pickup "hear" the wood (we like the wood, right?), and becomes more touch sensitive.
     
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