Name of the Flame

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  1. mmilgrom

    mmilgrom Member

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    Whether 'correct' or not, it's still interesting to hear what 'pigeonholes' people will put a particular guitar in.

    You're right about the original owner, though. He's a benevolent, eccentric collector with impeccable taste and an unquenchable thirst for great axes.

    In fact, you'd probably really get on with him....
     
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  2. River

    River Senior Member

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    What do you guys call this? This (flash) shot shows pretty much max figuring. From some angles, in some lighting, it's a plain top. In this shot, the standard (vertical) grain is barely visible. In others, that's all you see.

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    I call it "peek-a-boo flamish quilt". :) The cat calls it "comfortable".
     
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  3. RAG7890

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    I call it a freaking great 2002 R8 Riv. The same one we have been admiring for ages now. :)

    I have a CR8 with a similar top in some respects, Flame, Grain, Figure, Mineral & a few Blisters!

    All good.

    Matt, :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:, yes I get on really well with myself. :D

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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  4. delawaregold

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    The flame on your guitar is called "Pin Stripe". In the book (English Version)
    The Beauty of the Burst by Yasuhiko Iwanade, he shows and names most of
    the common flame patterns on page 182. If you have not read The Beauty
    of the Burst, I highly recommend it. It is regarded as the final word by most
    of the Les Paul community.






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  5. RAG7890

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    :shock:................one day I'll extract my digit & actually buy a copy. :)

    Artie, does the Pin Strip description actually refer to how Lumber is graded etc. or just another name used by us guitar lovers?

    Cheers, Rudi
     
  6. delawaregold

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    Rudi,
    To quote Wilson Mizner, “To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism,
    to steal from many is research.”
    I’m not really sure how Mr. Iwanade did the research for the book, but
    since its publication it has become the reference source for all things
    Les Paul. I don’t think (from having read the book from cover to cover)
    that this has a relationship to the Grading of lumber. Grading is somewhat
    subjective, and BOTB is very much factual. As you well know, Gibson
    lumber grading has been a sliding scale over the years.






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  7. Sct13

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    Thats an interesting viewpoint, because BB has become a reference for a lot of "new" users. There isn't much by way of grading to the lay "collector" or aficionados so we use what is available and published. Because published works are considered to be pretty much factual. I have done some research in my lifetime, and the wood thing is largely marketing. :)
     
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  8. RAG7890

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    Thanks guys. :thumb:

    How about some............:hmm:.............:shock:...........Fiddleback! :naughty:

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    2007 R9 VOS in FT. :)

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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  9. RAG7890

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    May as well keep going.

    For perspective sake, here is the original pic of the same guitar above, taken by the guys at Willcutts in KY when I bought it new in 2007.

    BTW, apologies, I keep calling it a 2007 when in actual fact it was made in 2006. :)

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    This is the one guitar I think would make a great HM with the same finish as Ed King's Burst............which I happen to really like. The hang tag shadow from the shop window looks really cool.

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  10. RAG7890

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    Hey Mark, thanks for starting this Thread. Really cool. :thumb: :applause:

    I'll try to post an interesting pic here every week from all the ones I have or have owned.

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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  11. LPCollector

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    Back at ya with a Braz R0!! :D


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  12. LPCollector

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    Thanks Rudi!

    It would be really cool if would post 'em, please! :thumb:

    Your input is always valuable! :dude:

     
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  13. delawaregold

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    Did someone say Brazilian R0?


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  14. RAG7890

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    :hmm:...................I know, Peekaboo Flame.........Tangerine Burst!

    Although hard to see the Peekaboo Figuring on the upper bout in this particular shot. :)

    Bought this from Ritchie at Lakeshore Guitars. 2003 R9.

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  15. RAG7890

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    :hmm:................OK, next up is my old dearly departed (back to LA) MB 024 Bloomfield. Great guitar this one. :thumb:

    Nice wide..........what do you call this? Maybe Ribbon Flame. :dunno:

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    Enjoy.

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  16. LPCollector

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    Tiger-ish Ribbon....?
    Ribbon-ish Tiger....?
     
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  17. RAG7890

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    Cheers Mark.

    I'll post a real Bengal Tiger Flame tomorrow for you...........MB020.

    For tonight one of the nicest Historics I have ever owned............great weight, great neck shape & fabulous finish............even has the mismatched pickguard gap from this era.

    A 1997 R0 with a really nice Ribbon Flame top & awesome color. Way, way better in the flesh. :)

    Now living in Canada.

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  18. oli

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    :wow::wow::wow:WOW Rudy !!! Just... WOW ! :drool:
     
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  19. Sct13

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    here is a similar one, but different. Great axe too.

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    But that R0 has more pronounced flame. :hmm:
     
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  20. RAG7890

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    Cool R9. :thumb: :applause:

    Correct, but don't forget back in 1997 the tops were stained first to make the flame pop & therefore look more pronounced.

    In the flesh that R0 was nothing short of stunning IMHO. :)

    :cheers:
     
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