Mystery Les Paul copy identification thread

Discussion in 'Other Single-Cuts' started by reborn old, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. pete_g

    pete_g Junior Member

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    No clue anyone?
     
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    Must all be out playing music!
     
  3. PermissionToLand

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    No clue, but I'd wager Chinese. Maybe a custom order from a Fibson factory?
     
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  4. paruwi

    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    The Tuners look very 'Chibson'
     
  5. aaronl

    aaronl Senior Member

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    Help Identifying?
    I was told it is a mid 80s Burny RLC-60
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  6. Mr Insane

    Mr Insane Senior Member

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    This is at the local shop, not interested in it, but just wondering who made it.
    The neck plate says Made in Japan
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  8. Reverend Crash

    Reverend Crash Junior Member

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    Hey folks!

    I'm new to this forum. I've always sug "lawsuit" guitars, and I got a killer deal on this one the other day. It is schedupscto be delivered tomorrow, and I'm stoked to get to work on it. It's just the body, neck, and tuners. I have a nice set of pickups to go in it, and a couple of push/pull pots, so I'm going to set it up for tapped could+ .
    There's no name on the headstock, just a design, but from what I can tell it's probably pre-76 due to the open book scrolled headstock. If anyone can help me figure out a brand or maker just to satisfy my curiosity, I'd really appreciate it!!

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  9. Time2Fly

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    Hi All,

    I've got one that I've had for about 10 years now. I love it. Plays awesome, sounds great, and it's had some work done to it already. Strings just lay on the fretboard and no buzzing. Gibson locking tremolo system, tuners, etc. I've read about trouble keeping the locking temolos in tune, but this holds perfect. Anyway, just curious what it is. I'm not trying to sell it, so this isn't urgent, just peaked my curiosity lately on what exactly it is. Whoever had it before me really took care to put some awesome hardware, set it up nice, and it is a great axe for me.

    Anyone who can identify it, I'm just curious.

    Thanks! Happy playing!

    -N

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  10. powerslide

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    I'm no expert on these things so just my .02 cents, maybe a real expert will chime in here and confirm or deny.

    I've seen a few very similar looking les Paul copies that were Made in Korea by Cort Musical Instruments in the 80s with no headstock label. Same single diamond inlay, same style pots and caps and wiring, same headstock shape, same TRC, same knobs etc. Dont recall the model of Cort but there are a lot of similarities. I believe the Cort Korea factory also made guitars for other brands such as Hohner that looked a lot like this as well.
     
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  11. PermissionToLand

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    Yep. Powerslide got it right; that's an un-branded Cort GE-27:

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  12. Time2Fly

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    Awesome, thanks guys!
     
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  13. Itwaslupus

    Itwaslupus Junior Member

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    I found this old "Horugel" guitar in the storage in my basement, i'm considering making a project out of it but I wanna know exactly what i'm working with before I start replacing stuff, anyone have any idea what i'm looking at?
    Photo of the back of the headstock is a bit blurry, but there's 2 stickers, one says "Made in Korea" and the other has the numbers "611" written in pen above the words "Inspected by ----" (sticker is scratched off under that).
    There's also no serial number as far as I can tell, but I haven't opened it up to check the electronics yet.

    I assume it was my dad's at some point, as I know he spent a lot of time in korea back before I was born.
     

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  14. PermissionToLand

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    It's a rebranded Hondo HLP-2 made by Samick. The goldtops were mostly made around 1976-'77. The Horugel model was the EG-1702.

    http://samick.wikia.com/wiki/HLP

    Horugel was a German piano brand that Samick bought and made some guitars under the name as well.

    http://samick.wikia.com/wiki/Horugel

    I do have one question, how is the Horugel logo affixed to the headstock? Is it a sticker, metal plate, silkscreen?
     
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  15. powerslide

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    +1

    PTL nails it again. I'm curious if this was one of the model's that included some early Dimarzio SuperD Pickups stock, tho I've never seen a (early) pair covered? Or are those actually singles with HB covers like the wiki suggests?
     
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  16. Itwaslupus

    Itwaslupus Junior Member

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    The Horugel logo is a sticker.
     
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  17. Itwaslupus

    Itwaslupus Junior Member

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    If you'd like I can take them out and post pics of the electronics here for a better id
     
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  18. powerslide

    powerslide Senior Member

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    I'm certainly interested, PTL or others here may know for sure. I've seen and heard of some Hondo's from around this time frame with these pickups, don't know if that translated to any of these models though. If you do end up pulling them pics would be great.
     
  19. PermissionToLand

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    No, they were always uncovered. I was gonna say there's no overlap between goldtops and Dimarzios (started in '78), but looking back through my archive, I found some. They also put MOP inlaid logos on the Dimarzio models, but that didn't always translate to rebrands. This Horugel will have the single coils.

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  20. powerslide

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    Thank you @PermissionToLand , very helpful as always!!
     
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