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Discussion in 'Pickups' started by colton young, Mar 6, 2018.
Awesome stuff Dude!
Thank you,brother!! When I find an outstanding piece of gear, I love to share it,man.
I like the set of Tone Emporium PAFs in one of mine...
hey guys, So I decided to follow everyone's advice at once. I have some pearly gates on the way. its the only pickup ive played on and I liked it then in a old Kramer. I listened to many and the only thing I liked more was a winder out of nc but when I looked up the pups a used set was going for 750... I hope I like these. it was down to that and the Demario master paf.
also doing 50s wiring with cts 500k pots. poor old studio will be gutted and everything changed. Ill report back how I like it. I chose the pg because the output advertised seemed a touch hotter than most paf sets and kept it simple and got a matched set.
crossing fingers that I'm not disappointed.
Definitely keep us updated,brother.... I absolutely love tone reports!
I just wish you wouldn't share those shorts with us brother, maybe you could tilt the camera up a bit man !
so, I dropped the guitar off last night to the guy a trust with these things. Today I get a text from him asking about the wring harness I wanted along with a ling to a lengthy technical thread on 50s wiring vs. modern vs. modern with a .01 cap.
he said before he had me pay him to do it he wanted me to research and was suggesting the modern rt with the high pass cap. I know I got a lot of great advice on this from you guys, and I'm not questioning knowledge but it seems 50s wiring makes the volume and tone interact with each other differently. so in theory guitar wide open is the same both ways. modern wiring loses highs as you roll off the volume because the tone pot is a load in the circuit thought its at 10. with 50s wiring the tone is retained in the highs but once you back off past a certain point, will start to lose its low and mid and drop off in output more than the modern style. He said he was giving it thought after asking tons of questions about why I wanted to do this and thinks I may want to do the .01 high pass cap with modern wiring to save money and also have exactly what I want.
so I told him I wanted to read and learn a bit on it and ask in here for thoughts yet again. seems like 50s wiring has some draw backs especially since I like to roll off my tone a little when I play the middle. 50s wiring seems to make the tones act like a master tone in the middle?
once again I'm sorry for more questions especially after you told me what I should do but I felt he had a point especially if hed some more parts and and made more money off me by doing what I said I wanted.
You've got it right that 50's wiring offsets resonance losses by removing parallel load from the pickup as series resistance is added, while a treble bleed just creates a low resistance path for higher frequencies, as low frequencies are attenuated by the series resistance of the volume control (voltage divider). The 50's wiring is more natural sounding, in that its working to preserve the resonance of the pickup, where as the treble bleed is trying to offset the loss of one thing by adding back another, so they end up sounding different overall, and attenuating differently as you roll back the volume.
IMO, if you like to use the tone knob, or even just set it anywhere other than 10, modern wiring with a low value treble bleed cap is a better way to go. I also think it's worth while to try different caps with alligator clips in order to find the value you like best, because some values will retain too much treble as you roll off, while others maybe not enough. A cap that gives you usable treble between 10 and 5 might be too bright between 5 and 0, while a cap that is good between 5 and 0 might not do enough between 5 and 10, so how you use the volume control can make one cap value a better choice than another.
If you don't use the tone control much, but you do use the volume a lot, then I'd say 50's wiring is a better choice. I think it sounds more natural, especially as you get closer to the bottom of the volume, it behaves more like you expect a volume control to behave, and all it requires is moving a single wire, so it's really easy to undo if you don't like it. The draw back is that turning down the volume virtually and simultaneously "turns up" the tone control, due to the proportionate increase in series resistance in between the pickup and tone control. I've seen people euphemistically describe this as "interactive", but I'd describe it as unintuitive and frustrating.
I’ll keep this in mind,brother!