My Les Paul got jacked up by the local luthier

Discussion in 'Gibson Les Pauls' started by YoshiJimbo, Nov 4, 2017.

  1. Justin_Case

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    Bobby Mahogany Senior Member

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    I don't doubt they do some restorations.
     
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    If you can write the check, they will restore anything you want....

    That said, there are people out there that are as good or better; and less expensive, but they don't for or at Gibson.
     
  4. YoshiJimbo

    YoshiJimbo Senior Member

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    Went by and saw the Les Paul today. I should mention the original neck profile was the slim 60s version. I was expecting to see a huge hole but its actually more like a crack about a quarter inch long. I asked him to fix it best he could without replacing the neck. He originally offered to replace the neck at his cost but at this point i don't want something that extensive done to the guitar.
     
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    Sounds like you're letting him off easy to me. Up to you
     
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    Whatever you wanna do. Your guitar. If it fails, you're out a LP.
     
  7. Macronaut

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    Personally, I would not settle, nor would I let him replace the neck. He should buy you a new (or used) equivalent guitar.

    You are the only one that has to live with your choice of which way to go in this matter.
     
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    Exactly.
     
  9. stiff fingers

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    Consider this: you guitar has had a cracked neck for years. the crack is from the truss rod cavity out, it created a slight bulge that you asked to have shaved, and shaving exposed that crack. The luthier really has done nothing wrong.
     
  10. fleahead

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    Have we seen pictures yet? No pictures or it didn't happen.
     
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    really, and where did you get this information?

     
  12. stiff fingers

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    Just something to consider because it seems the Luthier did not, in fact, shave through to the truss rod groove, but rather stopped shaving when he detected a crack, I think a previous faint crack makes more sense than any person putting enough pressure on a scraper to actually crack a neck. The assumption being that it is a crack, like another poster mentioned, we need photos.
     
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    That's just silly.
     
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    If the luthier was that skilled and knowledgeable he probably should've checked for the hypothetical crack before going to town. According to OP the luthier took responsibility. Clearly he knows he messed up.
     
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    Is it a crack or the trussrod cavity showing?
     
  16. Leña_Costoso

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    Personally.... I hate it when my crack shows. It sounds like a it's a very fixable item. The cosmetics of it is another issue. On a solid color neck you never say it. On a stained neck.... I truly invisible repair would be tricky, what a passable repair shouldn't be that difficult.

    I've always wondered about truss-rod grooves and what might happen if there were a pull out from the wood on the inside during the manufacturing process.
     
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    Your liability insurance almost certainly didn't cover faulty work, that's a warranty issue. Commercial liability underwriters assume that you will perform your work proficiently, and if you don't, damage to the work itself - caused by your failure to do it properly - is typically excluded. Otherwise, there would exist what's known in the business as a "moral hazard", in that insureds would have little concern for doing their work properly, knowing that if they screwed up, their insurance would take care of it. Accordingly, most commercial general liability policies contain exclusions for damage to the insured's work and products.

    Sorry for the insurance geek-out, it's what I do.
     
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    Why would you even want to shave down a 60s neck in the first place.
     
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    That thought crossed my mind as well. Also, that should have given the "luthier" pause when he evaluated the task at hand.
     
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    not trying to attack you or anything but how much did you think he was going to be able to take off in the first place? there isnt much wood there as it is.
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    it's your guitar and ultimately your decision but I think you are making a mistake by having him just repair the "crack." there may only be one spot where he broke through but Ill bet there are other spots on the neck where there is only a hairs thickness of wood where the truss rod is and it might cause problems in the future. im not an expert but the neck rigidity may be compromised and there will always be a level of uncertainty as to how it will hold up.

    I would tell the guy to reimburse you top market value for the guitar and just buy something new or a reneck (which will probably take a while). it sucks but I dont think you will ever feel happy with that guitar and a halfassed repair.
     
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