My Last PAF (CLONE) "SHOOT-OUT"

Discussion in 'Pickups' started by jamman, Mar 17, 2012.

Vote for the one you like the Most. 1st is best, down to last & is not you cup of tea

Poll closed Mar 24, 2012.
  1. This is the 1

    29.2%
  2. Next choice 2nd best

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  3. Next choice 3rd best

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  4. Next choice 4th. best

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  5. Next choice 5th. best

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  1. cap217

    cap217 Senior Member

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    so which ones won? Can we put that on the first page?
     
  2. matt@msscguitar

    matt@msscguitar www.MSSCGuitar.com Premium Member MLP Vendor V.I.P. Member

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    Electric City Pickups RD-59's
     
  3. LtKojak

    LtKojak Senior Member

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    The set that got the most votes was the Electric City Pickups RD-59 set.

    It was NOT a contest, mind you. It was meant to give the opportunity to a lot of people, myself included, a way to hear real "boutique" p'ups, something that's otherwise impossible in real life.

    Seventeen different sets were tried, including some vintage Gibson p'ups, that can be used as a "tonal baseline" to be able to judge the others in comparison.

    Jamman did a TREMENDOUS job on the shootout. My hat's off and I bow in reverence for what he did.

    HTH,
     
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  4. jamman

    jamman Premium Member

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    I don't think it's possible to do that and Matt has given you the answer .

    Thanks Matt :thumb:


    Thanks LT. for the kind words .
     
  5. MasterEvan07

    MasterEvan07 Senior Member

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    Thanks for all the work you did Jeff - interesting to read all the responses. Seems several people really like the Electric City pups whereas I found myself liking the Woodbranes and the early pat. PAFs quite a bit. I listen to what the edge of the tone sounds like...for when it just opens up on a bend, or breathes during a sustained note...the little bit of sizzle on the top.

    Glad I have a set of Earthbranes coming in on a trade...hope they blend well with my LP!
     
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  6. jamman

    jamman Premium Member

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    More than a few people liked Bill's (Electric City Pickups) . They were #1 in the pole and are fine pups . It was more of a you pick'em cause every set was very good . It was more of what you like more .

    I can't recall seeing anyone put a set up for sale yet .:thumb:
     
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  7. tazzboy

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    You put down what came in first, second, third, fourth etc so people can see who was what.
     
  8. jamman

    jamman Premium Member

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    OK this is as close as i can get to getting the post with the results of who who first ,second , etc. (I did look) Hope this helps , it's been a while .



     
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  9. tazzboy

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    OK how about the Winning Order?
     
  10. mdubya

    mdubya Senior Member

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    Look at the poll.
     
  11. JCarno

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    This is the breakdown.

    vid/votes/order of finish
    8 = 21 - 1 Electric City-RD-59
    16 = 15- 2 OTPG Neck=7.55,Bridge=8.35
    9 = 13 - 3 Electric City–Fatty Arbucker
    1 = 12 - 4 Sheds–PAF Daddy’s Neck=7.61,Bridge=7.95
    4 = 11 - 5 Zhangbucker–Both Pure Hand Wound/Pagey2n,Slugbucker b//Neck=7.5 Bridge=8.3
    13 = 11 - 5 Skatterbranes–Burstbranes
    15 = 11 - 5 Early Pat. #’s (Gibson) Neck=7.25,Bridge=7.34
    17 = 10 - 6 Sheptone–Tributes Neck=7.76,Bridge=8.36
    2 = 9 - 7 Sheds–Blues & Two’s Neck=7.87,Bridge=8.49
    10 = 9 - 7 ThroBak–SLE 101 MXV LTD. Neck=7.70,Bridge=8.23
    11 = 9 - 7 Shaw’s(137&138)Neck=7.3,Bridge=7.53
    5 = 8 - 8 Stephens Designs–VL 2’s Neck=7.66,Bridge=8.21
    6 = 8 - 8 ReWind Electric–Crème Brulee’, Medium Output Neck=7.89,Bridge=8.1
    7 = 8 - 8 Rewind Electric–Zebras,Medium Output Neck=7.13,Bridge=7.90
    12 = 8 - 8 Skatterbranes–Twangbranes
    3 = 7 - 9 Fuelie–Plane Jane Neck=7.05,Bridge=8.37
    14 = 7 - 9 Skatterbranes–Woodbranes
     
  12. jamman

    jamman Premium Member

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    :lol: :thumb: Thanks Lt. , guess it looks easy to do . I wondered how many people would watch that many clips, of all those pups , Demo'd both clean and Over Drivin ? I felt clean was enough and using OD was way to long .
     
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  13. LtKojak

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    Having conducted blind tests in the past, I KNOW what it took me with only a third of what you've done, so, to put underwhelmingly, it's "easier said than done".

    Making an OD clip is more about what tone the player likes than anything else.

    I, for one, get absolutely nothing of value from an OD clip.

    HTH,
     
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  14. garybaldy

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    They'd all sound pretty much the same OD'd
     
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  16. jamman

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    I agree with the first part of your statement. But the poster ,imo, has a point about the tone got with OD . I apreciate and can hear to small differences in OD tones , but I didn't feel it showed what the Pickups had to give. I was , first, about letting people hear what the pups might sound like for them.

    I only have a small music room and loud playing for a long time is not good for the ears . I've done my Loud playing years ago and (still do at times) it's now about what I play and how it sounds . :thumb:
     
  17. Quill

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    My own experience has told me this much:

    If the level and kind of overdrive I'm using lets the character of the guitar come through at all - and it can be a lot of overdrive - I get all the information I need about what's going to work with that sort of overdrive from the way the guitar sounds with a clean setting. If the guitar doesn't sound good totally clean, it won't sound good with the overdrive - and if it does sound good clean, it'll work with the OD.

    If the level and kind of overdrive is such that it doesn't let the character of the guitar through, then it really doesn't matter all that much what I'm using to create the signal - pickups, guitar, whatever. It just is what it is.

    And the thing is ... any player with any degree of real-world playing experience is going to know this. So when we complain that Jamman hasn't done enough work for us because he didn't give us clips with OD is more than just basically shitty, it reveals that, as players, we are naive and inexperienced. And possibly not very bright.
     
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  18. miggic

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    Hey lads new to forum and just looking for thd audio for the shootout. Its no longer on youtube. Can someome please send me the link?
     
  19. gregggyf

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    Yes, the YouTube aspect does not seem to work anymore.
     
  20. miggic

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    Where.. is the audio.. do you have he microfilm..
     

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