My First Vintage Guitar - 1961 Les Paul Junior

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  1. Kinghat

    Kinghat Senior Member

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    I have been building guitars since 2012, so I don't have any factory, big name guitars anymore. Just the ones I've made. However, I still have been wanting something vintage for quite a while. I check local ebay listings periodically and found this Les Paul Junior for $2000. It was listed as being 1961, but I am not certain if that is correct. It has been well played, to say the least :).

    I'm very happy with it so far. I leveled the frets last night to remove all the divots and now they are very very low. I imagine I will refret it soon, but I want to live with it for a while. Here are some pictures of it. The first three are from the ebay listing. Can you help me isolate the year? At some point soon I plan on pulling the pots up out of the cavity far enough to read them and clean them.

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    Kinghat Senior Member

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    It weighs 5.75 pounds
     
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    fleahead Senior Member

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    WOW!!!! NICE score!! judging by the FB that baby's been loved!
     
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    Kinghat Senior Member

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    I think he only ever played A minor pentatonic, lol
     
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    One problem I need to sort out is that the wraparound leans so much that the break angle of the high E string is too shallow, going over the cast saddle. I know I will probably get a Mojoaxe lightning bridge and posts later, but now I wonder about shimming the bridge at the post with a washer to get the bridge to set level.
     
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    Don't do it. You will get some divots that will be hard to work out. Check the bushings, They maybe the short 1/2" variety that can be pulled and replaced with longer ones 7/8" ones.
     
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    Very nice guitar and I love the fretboard. Damn!
     
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    I think the serial number combined with the "Les Paul" script would put it as an early-ish '63.

    Really nice score! Congrats!
     
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    Where the bridge rests against the posts isn't a snug fit, so the bridge leans forward. I'm talking about shimming it in a manner that will make it fit tighter, like a TonePros locking post.
     
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    Good idea. If that doesn't work, get some Faber tail-piece locking studs. That will fix the bridge lean and is 100% reversible.
     
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    But what about the neck pocket heel, that wasn't sanded flush to the neck? On the very back of the heel? I though that was early 61? And that after a year or so they started smoothing the transition from body to neck?

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    Congrats !!! :thumb:
    Super cool guitar ! :dude:
     
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    There are examples of both stepped and smooth heels in '63.

    There are a couple of members in this subforum who are real experts (I'm not one of them :) ). Hopefully they will chime in.

    I love this guitar!
     
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    When I get around to doing the refret, I'm leaning towards lightly sanding the fretboard with a 12" radius block. Just to clean it up a bit, not to get any divots out.
     
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    PS: that is a brazilian board, right?
     
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    Yep, should be. I dig the divots. :)
     
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    Congrats. :dude: I'm loving the mojo. I can't see why shimming the bridge wouldn't work. Some sort of "C" shaped flat steel? Washers with a chunk cut out of it? That should tide you over.

    How is that p90 sounding?
     
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    Like the hammer of the gods, lol. I can't wait to gig it.
     
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    Nice one! It's a 63. What you are referring to about the heel does not apply to juniors. They always had that step. A six digit serial in the 1xxxxx range with a Les Paul script can only be a 63.
     
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