MTM vs Production Historics Qualitywise

Discussion in 'Historics & Reissues' started by Andy California, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. freebyrd 69

    freebyrd 69 Premium Member

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    Your simple question was answered in the first 4 words of the very first response.....Same builders = same results.
     
  2. mudface

    mudface Senior Member

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    I want YOUR Beano,...but i still won't "be done with it",.....I'll have to find a "Pearly Gates",....then maybe I'll be done with it.....:D
     
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  3. Crotch

    Crotch Support MLP Veterans & Vendors Premium Member

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    I got pretty lucky with mine.
     
  4. mudface

    mudface Senior Member

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    Yes,.... you sure did.......mucho bueno amigo! :cheers:
     
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  5. Farquad

    Farquad Senior Member

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    That isn't 100% accurate. I got a burl top and a custom color and very tight tolerance to neck specs on mine. Sadly I didnt get any build process photos. :(

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    I'm blind now and I have to ask, what color is that?
     
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  7. RAG7890

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    I don’t mind this one, very cool to see something a little different now & then. Gold Hardware works really well too. :thumbs:

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  8. Farquad

    Farquad Senior Member

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    Its trans antique pelham blue.
     
  9. freebyrd 69

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    No.....no you won’t. It never ends! Lol
     
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  10. cherrysunburst00

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    What about a Paul Kossoff signature?
     
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  11. Andy California

    Andy California Senior Member

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    Thank you. The thread wasn't that old so what I said is still true. But I might have not used the right words to express what I wanted to.


    I know it was answered.
    However, not with this statement. I don't agree with this statement. I don't think it's fair to equate same builders with same results. I've seen a lot of people say that TH were slightly better than regular Historics. I've also read an article and saw a video where the main Gibson CS guy was talking about how they go the extra mile to make sure TH are better. Either all that is a total nonsense, or "same builders = same results" is not exactly true.
     
  12. lpthomas

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    You seem to be misunderstanding this comment. I think it's obvious that quality is independent of the individual product. If the same workers work on a different project, it results in a different product. The TH may be considered "better" because they involve extra steps in manufacturing.

    High quality can and should be achieved at any price point within their range.

    I know where you're coming from. It's not a false to describe a, say, TH as a high-quality guitar. That doesn't mean the cheaper ones are less high-quality. Just a different offering.
     
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  13. BBD

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    'Same builders = same results' holds true with the caveat that there is always a degree of variability in the finished product. These are somewhat hand-built guitars, not microprocessors. Obviously you want something from the top end of the spectrum not the bottom and the only way you will get that is to try before you buy, or just keep buying blind online and flipping (and losing money) until you get lucky.

    There's nothing more to say on the subject. Introducing a spurious confusion between different products (non-TH M2M vs TH) adds verbiage but not substance.
     
  14. Sct13

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    Same builder, same risk....
     
  15. StubbyJ

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    Don't do it.
     
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    We all Love to see a TRAIN wreck . I wish someone took a Video !!!!!

    So true . M2M can be great , But you never know how the top will turn out after it's carved and stained(depending on the cut of wood you pick) ... And at that point , it's yours .... Buying already made, does have some advantages ...You know exactly what you're getting .... Don't like it when you get it ??? Send it back and try another . Paying shipping costs less the a M2M ....
     
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    I bought a M2M in 2015, and have been happy ever since. Looks, plays, and sounds great. Imho.. :dude::dude:

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  18. Blue Blood

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    This OP needs to go to a high end store (like Marks Guitar Loft or Norms) and sit down & play a bunch of different Les pauls (is that redundant ?)
    Building up the perfect guitar in your head is going to end horribly...once the moneys spent & the endorphin rush subsides...
     
  19. Radbloke McShreddington

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    Maybe this is more in line with what you're looking for:

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    Custom shop, modern looks, slim neck. Delicious.
     
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  20. cherrysunburst00

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    I can't comment on the plays department, but my suspicion on the sounds department is that you're right, and I CAN say that I agree 100% on the looks department. WOW WEEE
     

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