Mr. Epiphone, Epoxy is good for boats but not for guitars!!!

Discussion in 'Epiphone Les Pauls' started by Axomann, Dec 3, 2014.

  1. Malikon

    Malikon 仮面ライダー V.I.P. Member

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    I'm digging the dark brown "raw" look in the photo. :laugh2:
     
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  2. eeprete

    eeprete Senior Member

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    I find nothing affects my tone more than my inabilities.

    The refinishing going on here is great.
     
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  3. bigphish66

    bigphish66 Junior Member

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    I just seen this thread. I have a 2005 LP Wine Red pplus top I would love to refinish. I suppose my questions would be about the bindings and headstock. I suppose after the vener is off the binding has to come down. What about the headstock logo, can I sand it without destroying it ?
     
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    Damn. I've been using old, mismatched socks.
     
  5. wtb_an_axe

    wtb_an_axe Member

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    just went though the whole thread, cant wait to see this one finished.
     
  6. Mr.JT

    Mr.JT Senior Member

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    I also used an hour reading thru the hole tread and what I think??

    AXOLLENT!

    Really nice work and so much patience....

    well I hate to tell you that I sand down a hole guitar in one night, 18.00-24.00 :/
    oxelating rotation machine, same as the car painters use almost. very good to sand thru the 3 first layers and then use blocks when you get down to the wood. tips for the next project.

    really good photos you post, good luck with getting it finished!
     
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  7. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    In this Epiphone the headstock logo is a decal. I don`t know about yours, but i would say it should be also a decal too and if you sand it down you will destroy it!!

    In my Orville Custom the headstock logo is also a decal ;-)
     
  8. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    Just have a little patience..... :slash:

    I´m working on it :dude:
     
  9. Laggspike

    Laggspike Senior Member

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    Looking forward to it as well! :dude:
     
  10. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    Ok. Here comes an update of the painting process. Regarding the color I have decided to paint it in black, just as it was before striping the lacquer down. The translucent black that I tested, was too brown with the mahogany top and I didn`t like the differences with the 3 pieces mahogany. At the end, black is the original color of the guitar and I like it ;-)

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    Here I'm sanding the lacquer after 3 coats.

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    The top is sanded with 1000

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    The black coat for the sides an the neck

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    Taking the tape of

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  11. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    Cleaned up :dude:

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    Now comes the clear coat :slash:
     
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  12. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    Here an update again.

    These are the water slide decals with the serial number and the custom shop logo. They was produced for me in England and they are the exact reproduction of the originals. Although the originals are not a decal……..:hmm: but better than nothing :slash:

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    I have applied the clear coats and I'll let it dry for 2 weeks.

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  13. Furious Geoge

    Furious Geoge Banned

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    Nice work looks good, doubt many of us would go thru the hassle of stripping the black poly only to repaint it black , especially on an Epi. But it's your guitar and you obviously know what you're doing when it comes to the refinishing.

    Are you going to look at aging it , getting the nitro to crack etc?
     
  14. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    The color was not the problem by this guitar :slash: I Have considered to paint it in a translucent color, but the mahogany top is not a 1 piece. This was for me the main reason to paint it with plain color.


    No it is a modern Les Paul, cracking is for the replicas IMO.
     
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    claven2 Senior Member

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    Are you going to re-install original hardware, or are you looking at making some changes there as well? Just curious.
     
  16. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    Not really. I have only replaced the bridge for a Gotoh and the stoptail for an aluminium stoptail. I willl use the same EMG pickups.
     
  17. cgm

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    Awesome so far. I can't wait to see it finished.

    I have a quick question about the headstock... did you remove all of the clear over the headstock, or did you just sand the poly and will then clear over it with nitro?
     
  18. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    Hi. I didn't remove all the clear Poly. I just sanded it with 1500 and then with the Nitro over it.
     
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    What a great project. I don't have the skill or patients to ever do anything like this. Great pictures and thread. Can't wait to see how it looks when it finished.

    I don't view all the poly undercoat negatively. Fender has been doing that for years. I believe most of their MIA and MIM's have the same approach as the MIC/MIK Epi's. You have to get the "Thinshins" and "Flashcoats" for the nitro finishes. And then you're in the $1,700 plus range.

    Nothing wrong with Epi's as they come from the Factory. Especially at their prices. I think they are actually a better value than a comparable Fender.
     
  20. Axomann

    Axomann Senior Member

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    These are the pictures from the buffing process:


    I sanded the guitar with 1000, 3000 and 5000

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