More ammo for the tone wood debate

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  1. SteveGangi

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    Ebony is pretty damn hard. Save that for your armor piercing rounds ;)
     
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    Obviously not an American cork.
     
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    Goats iz for Metal. Metal is all about goats. But the dead bugz iz obvioulsy for DEATH metalz.
     
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    Moist is, indeed, a wondrous word and pleasurable to utter...
    And its inclusion in a sentence will produce strong reactions.
     
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    And now, back on topic:-

    Titanium and air...




    Hockey sticks and... more hockeysticks




    Witches Broom...

     
  6. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    Cool vid, Nik, especially the titanium...

    Some would think "howzat work wout no wood? Ain't nothing there."

    There is something there called titanium.

    A guitar does NOT have to be made out of wood to sound like a guitar.

    Resonant string system between two anchor points. Anchor points are connected to main beam.

    Good metal is MUCH more resonant than wood and all across the spectrum too!

    It's metal. Metal can resonate like a bitch....



    === Read further at your own peril ===

    Speaking generally to anybody dumb enough to read what I write, not specifically Nik.
    He's smart as hell, I'm more like a mobile hazard zone when I get to pondering...



    When I would lecture about resonance, I would use a smooth metal rod about a meter, bow string rosin rubbed all over....
    Pull my thumb and forefinger repeatedly and rapidly down the rod.
    Resonance would set up and about deafen everyone in the class. Ungodly loud... Think upper mid feedback that won't stop...

    Read the following a few times.........

    Some things can sympathetically vibrate more easily at one frequency than another...
    Some things can be very selective in the frequencies they sympathize with...
    Some things can be sympathetically sensitive to a wide range of frequencies...
    Sympathetic vibration is generated by a vibration being mechanically coupled from one medium, through a mechanical coupling, into another medium.
    A mechanical coupling is a two way street.
    Logic would say that whatever frequencies the second medium reacts to easily, can reinforce vibration in the original medium which will result in increased amplitude of P-P deviation.
    Frequencies NOT reactive in the second medium will NOT reinforce vibration in original medium, thus end effect is those particular freqs are attenuated in comparison.

    Read the above a few times.........


    A few more things to think on...

    Every neck blank is a bit different...
    Every body blank is a bit different...

    If there is vibration, there is positional deviation. Something is moving.

    Far easier for the neck to mechanically react than a body in a solid body. <---- ||: read that again :||
    The body of a Lester does react and vibrate...

    Inducing vibration in a solid guitar and feeling/hearing guitar reaction is interesting....
    Also interesting the differences between one guitar and another under the same induced vibration...
    What is very interesting is the effective result of the induced vibration on the guitar after a long period of constant vibration....



    But what do I know... I'm just a conga player....
     
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    Of course, sometimes...
    ...even the best technology in the world can not make 'em sound good:-

     
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    I'm gonna have bad dreams now. Thanks, Nik... Damn...

    Oh, the warm shitty sound of composite in the morning, screeching like a banshee in the breeze... Damn....
     
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    Solid Steel -v- Les Paul



    W.T.F. you don't even need a guitar:-

     
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    sounds exactly like every other 8 string progressive death metal song I've heard that meanders.

    congrats? mission accomplished?

    Some of these guys are really good and you can tell they have a goal and direction and central theme they're working with. But most sort of sound like they glued 60 random riffs together in ProTools and called it a song.

    ..I guess people are digging it though. Idk, I'm old. :laugh2: I'll stick with old school NWOBHM influenced thrash.
     
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    Mal, I'm sixty-freakin'-five man... it's ALL scary crap to me since B.B.King done died. Heck... even the likes of you, AXE, Vasco, Fezziwig and others here puzzle me with your fire and brimstone. Shoot... I spend as much time pickin' acoustics as 'lectrics these days. But none of that is here or there in the tone-wood debate...
     
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    Johan Segbord rules................he's tried everything and love the way he talks.
     
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    TheX Voice of Reason

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    The modular aspect is what caught my attention
     
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    I would love to have an all aluminum neck-through with interchangeable "wings" for different shapes.
     
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    not a bad place to be mal.But old? No! I'm old,lol...funny,both my daughters,started by the oldest one, are discovering HM. Recently, Sabbath,Iron Maiden,Slayer.Damn kids,her violin technique will go to hell in a hand basket:rofl::rofl:...but even she will say,with ears that are far more profound than mine,wood matters.But she still prefers a carbon bow.:jam:
     
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    I'm only five cars behind you, bud.
    I'm still young... Other than the snap, crackle, pops getting up in the morning...

    I was telling someone yesterday, a guitarist even, about the Dixie Dregs doing it again....

    He looked at me and said "Who?"...
    Oh my homey jeebus, where's my Geritol Latte?

    I should have asked about Mahavishnu Orch... I need a damn nerve pill...

    Damn kids....
     
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    I was listening to Dregs of the Earth a couple days ago, a fantastic album.
     
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