More ammo for the tone wood debate

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  1. TheX

    TheX Voice of Reason

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    Aint that the truth.
     
  2. Malikon

    Malikon アストロモンスター V.I.P. Member

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    let that wood breath man,..let it breeaattthhhee.
     
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  3. Thermionik

    Thermionik Not Fade Away Premium Member

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    If he really DID mean "as a luthier, combining a body blank with a neck to provide the most harmonious balance can't be measured, more intuitive" then why didn't he SAY that? And if that IS what he MEANT to say, he really is missing the point. Here... some resonating wood where all you need is your ears to measure the differences...

     
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  4. Olds442

    Olds442 Senior Member

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    practice is the best tone wood.

    prove me wrong.
     
  5. Thermionik

    Thermionik Not Fade Away Premium Member

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    I have no spin to impart.
     
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  6. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    Not nary damn thing about amplitude modulation... He's going to hell...

    Needs to listen to a good quartet sing... Yeah, dead serious...

    Not bad on the 110Hz going into the body and 110Hz coming out BUT.

    Wood is a different material than metal string and will not be sensitive to all freqs. So...

    - String vibrates
    - Vibration is coupled into body via mechanical coupling via mechanical coupling (fret, saddle)
    - Body vibrates sympathetically with string
    - Body vibrational amplitude at any injected freq is dependent upon acoustic characteristics of that hunk of wood
    - Body reflects energy back to string via the same mechanical coupling with some freqs attenuated, some reinforced <---- ;)
    - Aggregate energy deflects string disturbing lines of flux, changing rate and amplitude of flux cutting turns of inductor which results in alternating current flow...signal

    But what do I know...I'm just a conga player...
     
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  7. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    and I don't care about species of wood either...
     
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  8. Bill Hicklin

    Bill Hicklin Senior Member

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    Wood very carefully cut to different dimensions so as to vibrate at different pitches. Which nonetheless has the same timbre ("tone") from bar to bar. And, above all, wood which IS the sound-producing element of the instrument.


    Believe me, you don't want an electric guitar body which has an identifiable resonance peak.....
     
  9. Mark V Guitars

    Mark V Guitars バナナフライング... MLP Vendor

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    You guys are all really very funny. Learned long ago that since I'm always right anyway, there's just no point in my entering the tone wood debates.

    That said, wood does matter. :D
    I have spoken.
     
  10. Sp8ctre

    Sp8ctre Senior Member

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    All my guitars sound like $hit...I blame the wood...
     
  11. HogmanA

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    Well, I think he means that after you have selected a body and neck blank - the pitch of each will change as it is cut and shaved into shape, which would require a more intuitive approach, or guesswork about how much the pitch is going to change after working the blank.

    Look, you're making me defend him, while stating you have no horse in this race - sounds like a professional spin doctor to me.
     
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  12. HogmanA

    HogmanA Senior Member

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    you asked for waveforms, oh yes, there are those too..

    Some of these differences couldn't really be corrected with eq, drive levels, etc - you'd end up with an approximation.

     
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    But made in America Alder CNC'd Strat bodies are better than made in China Alder CNC'd Strat bodies because,...America.


    :laugh2:
     
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  14. KP

    KP Senior Member

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    The only spin here is the jerkoff luthier trying to sell you a high priced guitar. How many guitars have you built? How many decades have you been playing? Did you take science in school?
     
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    dsmcl77 Senior Member

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    :lol:
    It's called Mojo* Tone.




    * Replace Mojo by any word you like...
     
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    I sniffed a cork once........:doh: I didn't like it......
     
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    Thermionik Not Fade Away Premium Member

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    To hijack KP's post up-thread...
    How many guitars have you built? None, though I have "worked on" a few dozen...
    How many decades have you been playing? Five and a half
    Did you take science in school? School, college and a couple of decades of working life, and still engaged with it to this very day.

    No "horse in the race", no "spin", no "axe to grind"... just a few to play, some "better" than others, but I AM enjoying this frivolous tip-toe through the tulips of tone...

    Gibson P90 on a Jacob Kindlesparker / William Dixon CLAY guitar...



    Cotswold stone guitar...



    Guitar made from a shovel...

     
  18. KP

    KP Senior Member

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    Justin has a whole series of weird looking guitars that sound great. It must be the wood. Or maybe not.

     
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    TheX Voice of Reason

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    I prefer two by fours and masonite for tone wood.

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