More ammo for the tone wood debate

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  1. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    It would sure be lively.... Be interesting to see how the pickups would interact with the aluminum body though...
     
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    Thermionik Not Fade Away Premium Member

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  3. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    Hell to the yeah, Rusty!

    Mondo Badassery!
     
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    Since the pickups are magnetic, and aluminum is non-ferrous, they will not interact at all. Any interaction should be due to vibration and whatever microphonic properties the pickups have.
     
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  5. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    Movement of flux lines....
    Conductor...

    :cool:
     
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  6. Dolebludger

    Dolebludger Premium Member

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    This is an argument that will have no end. I only know that my all maple guitars have a sharper tone than my all mahogany ones. But as one approaches "arena volumes" the differences seem to go away. As I always play at much lower volumes than that, it does make a difference to me.
     
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  7. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    Most Lesters have maple caps.
    Low end 'growl' is basically the same. (mass)
    Upper 'bite' is all over the map.

    :cool2:
     
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  8. MikeyTheCat

    MikeyTheCat Senior Member

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    What's the scale length on those guitars?
     
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  9. TheX

    TheX Voice of Reason

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    Carbon fiber sounds amazing, must be magic wood.

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Dolebludger

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    My guitars have scale length from 24" to 25 1/2". Does scale length make a tonal difference?
     
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    TheX Voice of Reason

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    IMHO? Absolutely.
     
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    Wood -v- Carbon-fibre acoustics...



    Air-bodied guitar...

     
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  13. TheX

    TheX Voice of Reason

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    I have a Soloette and a Yamaha Silent. Both are nylon. The Yamaha is for practice when my wife's asleep, but I HATE the pickup. The Soloette sounds MUCH better to me.

     
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  14. Bill Hicklin

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    But only if it's old-growth carbon fiber.
     
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    See now I know you're taking the piss because no Ovation sounds amazing. :laugh2:
     
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    Of the wood vs CF, I prefer the wood top.

    That being said, what you can't see under the tops contribute to the sound of the acoustic. Not concerned as much about back and sides. How braces are done can make a big difference.

    Yes, I have spent many hours with sticky sandpaper around my thumb, apron pockets stuffed with other paper, listening to a top itself before mounting...

    About anything resonant and flexible enough to vibrate well will work as a top. Construction material and technique will determine the colors that can sing.

    Composite can actually resonate far better across spectrum better than wood because it is extremely consistent. If that is what you like, cool... Not me.

    A few months back I bought a Steinberger fiver stick bass after hearing a new one. Maple neck thru with maple wings. Loved the colors it could do. ( Built by Epiphone #20 last Nov, ALL MAPLE, hell yeah) Way back, sold some originals where I worked when they first came out. Resonant being composite but I didn't like the tone color at all... I didn't think much of em as basses...

    I still say the "badump bap bada" lick don't even sound like a bass. :cool:

    Just my opinion... Ignore as usual...
     
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    How did were you able to take the time to check the specs on the pots and caps and the windings and ohm readings on the pickups at a guitar store? Cool story though.
     
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    There certainly is a lot more about tone than the wood on a solid body guitar! I just say, for me, at lower small venue volumes, it can make a difference.
     
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  19. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    I don't get the volume deal....
     
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  20. Dolebludger

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    ahb,

    You don't get the volume deal? Let me try to explain a bit. I have a vintage 61-62 SG LP Standard with a thin mahogany body that sounds like crap (to me) at low volume. But at high volumes, that thin body begins to resonate with the amped volumes. Sustain improves. Tone improves. And when the amp is cranked, it sounds like heaven has come down. But I won't even take that thing to a small venue, low volume gig. For those, I take something with a thicker body with better "wood resonance" to it. Maybe a LP, or a PRS or a Carvin, or maybe even a semi hollow -- or in extreme cases an Ibanez full hollow. But hey, this is all just me. Other players may have different experiences. I can only speak for me, on this controversial subject.
     
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