Modified R8 Les Paul Control Cavity help!

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  1. ssuper1

    ssuper1 Junior Member

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    Hello,

    First post... so go easy on me.

    So I got this pre owned 2007 R8 Les Paul VOS and am trying to figure out what the previous owner did with the modifying of the control cavity. I'd like to know what is stock and what is mod. I'd like some insight into what the mods might be trying to achieve in the sense of tone or utility.

    I'd also like to know if it 50's wired or modern?

    Any help, thoughts are welcome.

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  2. DanD

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    Looks like they updated the pots and caps with 50s style wiring. Looks to have a .015 cap in the neck spot and a stock value .022 in the bridge.

    The .015 in the neck adds a little brightness to neck position.

    Mods looks to be well done. Caps look like RS's paper in oil style.

    It looks to be better than what came in there from Gibson and many folks do exactly this mod to their Rs.
     
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  3. ssuper1

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    Thanks Dan, I was considering dropping in 1956-1960 Luxe Oil-Filled .022mF Bumble Bee Capacitors
    at $ 59.00. What would you suggest?

    Also what does 50's wiring do for the tone?
     
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  5. Oranjeaap

    Oranjeaap Senior Member

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    Leave it as is, you're wasting money.
     
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    Hey ssuper1, we don't beat up on new people around here. What ever gave you that idea? :rofl:

    Welcome to the forum.

    As for your question, I have no idea. All my LPs have stock wiring.
     
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  7. LP Traditional

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    It makes the guitar retain some treble when you turn down the volume pot on the guitar.
    Modern wiring gets a little darker when you turn down.
     
  8. rclausen

    rclausen Senior Member

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    Yep, looks like an RS Guitarworks harness. There's no need to change a thing
     
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  10. DanD

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    As has been posted I'd leave it as is. The Luxe set is just a different brand of the same thing you already have.

    As to what 50s wiring does for tone? You can compare the effects of 50s wiring in your guitar to a late model LP Standard. The late model STDs use modern wiring and Burstbuckers. The pups may not sound the same but you should be able to hear a subtle difference in the tonal response when changing the level of the volume knobs. As was posted above you should notice that as you remove volume on the modern wired guitar it's tone will get darker. Your guitar should retain more high end as the volume is lowered.

    Some like 50s wiring some like modern. The only way to tell is to play some of each and see which arrangement you prefer. :thumb:
     
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    Its been upgraded with good stuff...leave it.
     
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  13. GT40

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    But you loose some volume when you roll back the tone.

    It's a passive tone/volume circuit with minuscule signal passing through. There are tradeoffs no matter how you wire the controls.
     
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    Very true. Though I personally find it easier to compensate for the volume loss with a clean boost if I absolutely feel the need to. It can be more difficult to have to compensate for the modern wiring darkness. All depends on playing style and how the player uses the controls though.
     
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    welcome to the forum...

    Play it awhile and experiment with the controls, now that the secrets of tonal bliss are uncovered for you, it is you that must decide what is right for your ears.
     
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    Looks like a Stock RS harness . Me , I'd be keeping that as I've found I like the older RS pots more then the newer 1's ... But to each , their own . But if you don't care for it , swap it out , since the guitar has already been modified , it makes no difference now .

    Nice Axe ,btw :cheers:
     

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