Modeling/solid state amps with great headphone outputs

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  1. KenG

    KenG Senior Member

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    The right headphones for the job and an understanding that, unless you employ filtering, you are going to hear hi-fidelity audio coming out of an AXE, Kemper, Helix, Headrush etc and not the reduced range of frequencies a guitar amp produces.
    I just revisited the HT1 schematic out of pure curiosity, and the headphones don't even tap off the power amp! So basically the guitars signal goes through 2 Op Amp stages then both halves of a dual triode, then 4 more stages of Op-Amps, then 2 more stages of Op-Amps before going into a stereo mixer (op-amp) then out the headphone plug! One one tube in the signal path of the two provided.
    An example of the placebo effect?
    Perhaps.
     
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    cybermgk Singin' the body lectric Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    Yep. Basically like playing a dirt pedal into a cab sim (and not an IR).
     
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    This is why I recommended the Amplug series headphone amps guys!! It will give him more options with a similar response. I have one of those things and it is better than my HT5 output!
     
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    cybermgk Singin' the body lectric Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    If he just wants his dirt pedal tone, then he should get something like a Two Notes Torpedo C.A.B or other IR pedal.
     
  5. MichaelAndrew3435

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    I think you were onto something with this post. I ended up getting a Runt 20, running the XLR output into a mixer, and using that for headphone use (I also use it with an Orang cab/speaker)

    The best headphone sounds I get in my opinion with this setup is when I use dirt pedals on the clean channel. The Friedman Runt 20 takes pedals very well and this actually sounds really good (at least to me) when I'm playing with headphones. Pedals sounded terrible in the front of my Blackstar, this is definitely not the case with the Friedman. Running backing tracks in my mixer also sounds a lot clearer vs directly into an amp like the Blackstar HT-1. It took a bit of time and patience to learn how to tweak the mixer and adjust the amp, pedals, etc, but I think this might be what I've been looking for :D


    EDIT: The drive channel sounds much better through the cab. I don't use any dirt pedals if I'm playing out loud. Thought I'd mention that.
     
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    :photos: or shens. It is the rule. :hippie:
     
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    Posted in the other forum.
     
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  8. Rocco Crocco

    Rocco Crocco Senior Member

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    I gave up trying to get a great headphone sound out of any guitar device... too much of too many freq's comes through the speakers. The fact that the speakers are only about an inch or so for my eardrum doesn't help matters.

    A good bit of my practicing comes through my headphones, and almost every time, out of habit, I find myself beginning to tweak the sound. This is not a good idea, and I force myself to stop now, because it will ruin the tones I have already set up to sound great coming out of my monitors. Plus, any amount of tweaking doesn't really help the headphones to sound that much better, anyway, YMMV.
     

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