MLP Bartlett Build

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  1. D'tar

    D'tar Senior Member

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    Tom,

    You have mail.
     
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    I may have the PDF on another computer. I'm sure a few others have it. Here is my first build as well, all from this thread, Bartlett plans, templates and binding.
     

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    Hi Tom,

    According to your list of the router bits to be used with your templates, you tell to use most bits with a 5/8 bushing.Istt this a 5/8 offset ?

    You describe the neck mortise and PU legs beeing routed the same time. In your list you tell to use a 1/2 for mortise and 3/8 for legs. So this can not be done the same time...

    What am I missing ?

    Thank you
    Cheers
     
  4. alk-3

    alk-3 MLP Sponsor

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    I am not using the templates I sell to build this guitar, I am using fixtures for my pin router, which is the way gibson did it back in the 50's.

    A 5/8" bushing offsets the bit the difference between the bushing and the bit. If you use a 5/8" bushing with a 1/2" bit, the offset is only 1/16".
    Having said that, I have not sold templates with offsets for several years, so that information is very much outdated.
     
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  6. D'tar

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    Hi, not Tom here but.... The working material is attached to the top of a template, the template follows the pin which is usually the same diameter as the bit(no bearing needed). the routing is done from the top side. The templates are to exacting specs which is transferred directly to the working material. All of the appropriate angles are built in to the templates(fixtures). Obviously an overarm pin router is needed.:)

    Its been a while since I have been to the beginning of this thread but there should be some good pictures of this.
     
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    Thanks for the reply! I actually bought a small shop pin router this year and then had a friend cut my own designed templates on a CNC he uses at his work. I learned how to use them for "flat" operations, but I guess my question would be how to use them when you have an angled operation such as the pup plane or the neck pocket plane? Seems like some trigonometry would have to be used to get the angles correct. Is that what is required? Does this make any sense? :hmm: Lol
     
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    Yes. Makes perfect sense. I cant answer your question with any experience. With some trial and error, once your fixture is set your results would be pretty predictable. Ive been keeping an eye out on c list for a pin router..... One day. Good Luck.
     
  9. alk-3

    alk-3 MLP Sponsor

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    sounds like you have it down. A pin router as an extremely versatile tool once you have the filtering created. Its repeatability that is key.
     
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    ExNihilo Senior Member

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    Hey Tom,

    I just wanted to say the obvious:

    This guitar is awesome, your build threads are awesome, and every product you sell is awesome. And we just saw another Walker Texas Ranger episode last week... You still remind me of Chuck Norris... Which makes sense given the awesomeness displayed here.

    Thanks for the thread!
     
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    Hey Tom,

    I have two question that were not answered or mentioned in this thread:

    1. what are the correct dimensions of the frets on '50s LP's?
    2. what kind of glue did you use to glue the ears to the headstock?

    Thanks
     
  12. alk-3

    alk-3 MLP Sponsor

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    The fretwire I like, which is very close to the original in size is the stewmac 141.

    Ears are glued on with hide glue.
     
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    Okay, thanks!
     
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    This makes me GAS for a LP. Ordered the BOTB book because of this thread!
     
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    I wish I had 52' necks that "Just happened to be on the bench" in my shop :laugh2:

    Great build and tons of great info here, thank you!
     
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    Skyjerk Meatbomb Silver Supporter

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    52' neck?

    Thats one big-ass guitar ;)
     
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