~ MIJ guitars that defy catalog specs ~

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  1. muccax

    muccax Senior Member

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    GRECO EG 500 1983
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  2. reborn old

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    Thanks again for your shared pics + time taken to post them, Otto. :)

    This #3 0050 example has Fujigen routing used on most
    EG-59-50* and higher model Mint Collection examples.
    Good to have it posted here for comparison purposes.

    *(500 on headstock decal)
     
  3. emptyisvarah

    emptyisvarah Senior Member

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    @jacco/reborn old

    where were you both when this particular guitar was debated in the epi section when i was month's old around here hahahaha! that thread got nasty. the experts in that section were sure there were no mij epi's made in the 80's despite the structural (tenon) pics. :D
     
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    I'm sorry Milton, won't let you down again :sadwave:

    I guess I was out :jam:

    Some other Mats epi pics from a 1985 model for you..

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  6. Mowgli5555

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    You don't see Matsumoku built Epiphone Les Paul models too often. The reddish inlays and of course the bolt tenon are a dead give away.
    It should also have standard Maxon MMK-45 pickups in it, I believe and a 3 piece neck.

    I have always wanted one just to try, but I believe they range new from 50,000- 60,000 Y. For that type of money, I would stay with Greco, Burny, or Tokai. Josh

    Edit: It seems that these particular models don't exist stateside due to the headstock shape. The export models during this time were the Sheraton, Casino, Emperor (thin and large body, and the Riv.

    Matsumoku lost the Epiphone contract around 1986 and around 1988 is when you start seeing Korean made Epiphone by Gibson models. Along with Epiphone/Orville Tereda made Semihollow guitars.
     
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    Indeed Matsumoku closed early 1987 because of bankruptcy.
    It's in the same timeframe that you see the end of Burny Mats models (produced in 1985 & 1986) and the take over of Dyna in 1987 for Burny.
     
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    thanks buds!
    @wulf- and here i was listing it here on the local ads. retracted!!! :)
     
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    I know what you mean, I've argued with the Epi 'experts' over the Matsumoku ones before too and they won't have any of it. If it doesn't exist in on epiphonewiki.com it doesn't exist probably due to the fact they also write the epiphonewiki.com :) Apparently the earliest Epi's are the 1989 Korean ones and the Matsumoku ones are actually Czech made ones from 1992 not 1982 :hmm:
     
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  11. reborn old

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    I guess MIJ Epi Elite and Lacquer series Les Paul models never happened then. :)

    With 12 or more Epi manufacturers in China and Korea, it must be quite a challenging project.
    The wiki site does have a "not 100% accurate" disclaimer, and is editable at least.
     

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    And keep the stripper off the binding or it will turn into mush!
     
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