I don't think I'm ever going to record for anyone under 40 again. Spent the last couple of weeks recording some college kids, as a "legacy" deal for an old friend. I was reasonably happy with the results, as far as I can control them. HOWEVER... I sent the band a couple of test mixes that I had mastered to what I consider to be a "normal" level of -9db Using Adobe Audition's normalizing capabilities. this was after a multi-band "pre-mastering" using Isotope Ozone. This is the level that most of my commercial "rock" CD recordings seem to be mastered to. However,as I was to discover, a normal level of 15 years ago is now no longer normal. I expected the usual teenage trauma, i.e., each member thinks that the mix is fine EXCEPT that his instrument is mixed too low. Instead, I got the same response from two band members " why is it so quiet compared to a commercial recording?" I was a bit taken aback as I don't normally get such complaints, but, then again, I work mostly with people of my own age. I asked them to send me a couple of examples of what they listen to. The recordings they sent average about -5db on Audition, and look like the profile of an Edison cylinder, i.e., a thick bar with a tiny bit of variation on the edges. I gritted my teeth and mastered their mixes to the same level. All the dynamics have gone. It's just a buzz saw from start to finish . They liked them, but asked if it was possible "to get it any louder?" It's their recording, but I'm staring to hate my own work listening to it. Is there no end to the "loudness wars?"