Master Of Puppets 85 demo

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    nauc Senior Member

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    Nice!

    Thanks for posting that. Interesting to hear how much of the song is already there.

    There's almost a KEA vibe to the vocals
     
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    @Malikon will be here with comment in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
     
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    wow I'm hearing so many subtle differences!

    With the intro you can hear he's walking down the whole E string starting at the 12 fret on E, instead of the 7th fret on A. Gives the chords a softer 'Sabbath' sound to them instead of the same chords being trebley'er on the A and D strings.

    The pre-chorus he's going ...

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    -7777-8-7-8888---7------------------------

    which sounds really COOL! I wonder why they changed it to...

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    -8888-8-7-8888---7------------------------

    such a subtle change but it makes a big difference. I really like the demo version. Moving up produces more tension,..though I guess the final recorded version is 'catchier'.

    The bridge chords are picked differently.

    the root of the harmony is there. I'm glad they ditched the bendy part and James's weird little solo with the Trills. (James loves trills,..another Sabbath influence.) It was probably a place holder I guess. The final James record solo is a lot better.

    I love the fast Kirk solo that's continuing the way it does on the demo over that next riff instead of stopping like on the record. That sounds more exciting than the record version.

    ..I guess the record is more polished but I like this raw/enthusiasm filled demo a lot!! Even the higher pitched "80's vocals" sound kind of neat. James was never very good at it though. I don't think he truly found his voice until the 4th album.


    ......then he threw it all away on the 5th album. :rolleyes: :laugh2:

    though that album made them a ridiculous ton of money and pushed them into the mainstream, so I guess they knew what they were doing.

    Thanks for sharing this that was a really neat listen. Much appreciated. :dude:


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    I'm wondering, who did they pitch this to - in 1985, mind you - who thought: "Yeah."
     
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    Flemming Rasmussen



    He did Ride the Lightening, Master of Puppets and ...And Justice for All.

    for the Black Album they switched to Bob Rock (because he made Dr. Feelgood/Motley Crue sound good) and they wanted a bigger more commercial sound.

    Paul Curcio (Megaforce records) did Kill 'Em All,...and honestly,..that album sounds like a Megaforce record. (in a good way.) It's just raw and fast.

    But the three that Flemming did went on to be classics and are considered by many to be Metallicas best albums. :dude:
     
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    I am pretty sure they got signed by Electra a month or two after the previous album Ride The Lightning was released.
     
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