LPs and Heavy Metal....Namely C# and String gauge...question

Discussion in 'Gibson Les Pauls' started by Macronaut, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Macronaut

    Macronaut Senior Member

    Messages:
    489
    Likes Received:
    165
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    I recently bought my 2017 LP Tribute to use as a platform for experimenting. My original intention was to try different pick ups but, I decided to go a different direction first...I think.

    I want to set it up for dropped C# tuning for certain Iommi riffs and the like.

    So far I'm thinking perhaps 12-54s for string gauge, so hopefully I won't need to adjust my neck much, if any. If I do this, I will likely need to re-slot my nut (I suppose I should have a spare on hand, just in case...).

    I almost bought some hot pick ups instead but, it seemed to make more sense to go this route first, since I'm not a "Metal Head", it's just that I'm in the mood to express myself that way sometimes so, I don't need to go all out.

    Any thoughts (specially from those that do or have done.....

    Thanks ahead.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2017
  2. Shadow Explorer

    Shadow Explorer Member

    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    21
    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2017
    Hello I've had 6strings tuned to C for years, 12-54 sounds fine, consider 13-56 as well, after that it's just a matter of preference.
    When I started to downtune, I did it with 11s, needless to say that it was very very soft setup, yet not impossible.
     
  3. Britbender

    Britbender Senior Member

    Messages:
    260
    Likes Received:
    335
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2010
    11-56 is perfect for C#, depending on current setup you'll probably have to tighten the rod a nudge.
     
  4. Pushead

    Pushead Senior Member

    Messages:
    763
    Likes Received:
    271
    Joined:
    May 26, 2007
    I play .012-.056 in C standard, and .010-.052 in E standard. For C# I'd probably stick with the 12s.
     
  5. Strobe

    Strobe Junior Member

    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2017
    I put mine in drop-C for a long time when I was playing in a melodic death metal band (I am a metal head, but I enjoy quite a variety of music). I used the Ernie ball Skinny top / heavy bottom when I did it. That said, I tend to go for a lighter gauge of strings on my standard tuned guitars.

    I think a good general rule is that for every full step you go down from standard, going up a gauge will make it feel about the same. So if you like 10's in E standard, use 12's in C standard. If you like 9's, go 11's, etc. If you want to drop the lowest string as well, consider a hybrid like the skinny top / heavy bottoms - D'addario makes a variety of NYXL's with this sort of profile.

    Iommi himself played 8 gauge strings I recall reading - all tuned down to C# standard. It really comes down to taste in tension. Just remember that if you change the tension a lot, you probably have to change the guitar setup. If you change the string gauge a lot, you might need to re-cut the nut.

    Keep it heavy my friend! Great guitar, enjoy!
     
  6. Macronaut

    Macronaut Senior Member

    Messages:
    489
    Likes Received:
    165
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    Thanks everyone for you input. This gives some things to consider.....
     
  7. Macronaut

    Macronaut Senior Member

    Messages:
    489
    Likes Received:
    165
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    I did read that Tony used lighter strings. However, I do have some NYXL 12/54s on hand and will start there.

    I started to purchase a guitar (non LP) specifically for this purpose. I was just wondering what some here have accomplished with their LPs concerning dropped C# (or similar) for Metal type sounds/feel.
     
  8. jojo

    jojo Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,201
    Likes Received:
    634
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2009
    Its all personal preference. I've used 10s in drop C for over 20 years.
     
  9. DarrellV

    DarrellV Almost 1 Year old this month! Premium Member

    Messages:
    7,913
    Likes Received:
    6,398
    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    Maybe this will help in some way...

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Macronaut

    Macronaut Senior Member

    Messages:
    489
    Likes Received:
    165
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    I do, truly appreciate the chart provided. However, I got a head ache trying to make sense of it. I suppose I need it dumbed up a bit.
     
    DarrellV likes this.
  11. DarrellV

    DarrellV Almost 1 Year old this month! Premium Member

    Messages:
    7,913
    Likes Received:
    6,398
    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    Ha!
    I was hoping you could figure it out! :laugh2:
    We're in the same boat. :dude:
     

Share This Page