Low tuner issue

Discussion in 'Epiphone Les Pauls' started by Ronaldo, Jul 2, 2017.

  1. Ronaldo

    Ronaldo Senior Member

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    IMG_1355.JPG Please take a look at the height of these Kluson tuning machines that I just installed in my Les Paul Special.
    They seem very very low.
    The eyelet just peaks out of the bushing. I haven't tried stringing yet as neck is off for some mods I'm undertaking.
    Where did I go wrong.
     
  2. T00DEEPBLUE

    T00DEEPBLUE Senior Member

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    You didn't measure the thickness of the headstock against the height of the tuner posts. That's where you went wrong.

    Send the tuners back.
     
  3. Ronaldo

    Ronaldo Senior Member

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    Very true and I should have.
    I was lazy I'll admit however the following information kind of led me to believe that they would fit.
    Never would I have thought that an Epi Les Paul Special headstock would be thicker than any other Epi or Gibson or modern Epiphone.
    Descrption about Kluson 3 per. side tuners at GC.

    Add a touch of vintage style to your axe with these three-per-side tuning machines.

    These Kluson tuning machines were used on vintage Gibson guitars such as the Les Paul, SG, ES-335 and others. They're also used on the Epiphone Casino and current Epiphone production of Les Paul and G-400 (SG) models. This model of Kluson tuning machines is also a direct replacement for all current reissue 50's and 60's Gibson production and other series that use a vintage style individual tuning machine. This kit comes with six individual tuners, 3 per side (that are not on a plate). All hardware including bushings and mounting screws are included in the set.

    Please note: If you are retro-fitting a vintage instrument that has been modified or putting this vintage-style Kluson tuner on a modern instrument you may also need to purchase "adapter bushings" (sold separately) to convert a larger size peg hole to vintage size to allow for proper fit and function.

    These guitar tuners were historically used on the following guitars:
    1958 - 1959 Gibson Flying V
    1958 - 1959 Gibson ES-345
    1956 - 1959 Gibson ES-295
    1956 - 1959 Gibson J-200
    1956 - 1959 Gibson ES-350
    1956 - 1959 ES-5
    1957 Gibson Explorer Prototype Futura
    1959 Epiphone Crestwood Deluxe


    A blast from the past that will make tuning your guitar a vintage experience.
     
  4. Rocco Crocco

    Rocco Crocco Senior Member

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    I would keep them. They look fine and should function with no issues.
     
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    PierM Premium Member

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    No clearance for a proper winding, I would personally return the tuners.
     
  6. Ronaldo

    Ronaldo Senior Member

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    I did end up exchanging them.
    What I did like about the Kluson was the nice white pearloid buttons instead of the typical greenish colors.
    Anyway, Saul Goodman!
     
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    Biddlin Senior Member

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    Pics or it didn't happen.......:D
     
  8. Ronaldo

    Ronaldo Senior Member

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    Oops, sorry.
    Oh it happened!
     
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    marc1kim Senior Member

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    My Brother sent me some Gibson tuners and after installation looked just like your photo. I haven't had any issues with them.
     
  10. Ronaldo

    Ronaldo Senior Member

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    Are you talking about the first picture showing the low tuners or the last picture where I replaced them with some Gibsons?
    The low tuners may have worked if I did maybe one winding, but the string hole was just above the washer.
    The used Gibson tuners my sone gave me match the peg height of my other LPs and are just right.
     

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