Looks like we have Mr.Les Paul to thank for our Epiphones

Discussion in 'Epiphone Les Pauls' started by Malikon, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. Drew_585

    Drew_585 Junior Member

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    Did they say what models he had? I mean its hard to say a special ii is a real les paul, without maple top, only two knobs, bolt on neck, ect. How many of the classic traits of a les paul do we need to see before its a real les paul? Is my epi lp 100 a real les paul? I would probably say no.
     
  2. paruwi

    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    What is written on the headstock of your LP-100 ?

    oh and I'm sure Les Paul had some Prototype Epiphones back then....:naughty:

    BTW, not every (real) Les Paul had a maple top.....

    and another cynical question...
    what has the 2015 Gibson LP lineup common with a 'real' Les Paul :hmm:

    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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  3. CivoLee

    CivoLee Senior Member

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    I'm willing to bet there's some historical tampering going on here, like originally Les wanted an import line of more affordable Gibson Les Pauls and Henry J said no. So they compromised on Epiphone.
     
  4. paruwi

    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    The first post of this thread will give you the answer......:dude:
     
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  5. CivoLee

    CivoLee Senior Member

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    How do we know he's telling the 100% truth? Keep in mind this is the guy who prefers "perceived" value over real value...
     
  6. paruwi

    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    Buy the book and read yourself......:lol:

    or just play Fenders....:doh:
     
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  7. old mark

    old mark Senior Member

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    I'm late to this, but FWIW, Les Paul LOVED Epiphone guitars in the 1930'3 and '40's. He preferred them to the Gibson jazz guitars of those eras because he knew guitars and the Epiphones were better instruments than the Gibsons.

    MANY of the top guitarists of those days played Epiphones for their distinctive sound and beautiful workmanship and great playing qualities.

    IMO, even today, Epiphone - especially their arch top line - again makes exceptionally good players guitars. I have quite a few, and my Gibsons stay in the case while the Epis - and a few low end Gibsons - get played.

    Les did us a lot of favors, and this was certainly a big one.
     
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  8. rlh5599

    rlh5599 Senior Member

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    No compromise, Epiphone IS an import line of more affordable Gibson guitars.

    THAT'S the point. Keeping a distinction between the two lines, such as the headstock shape, allows both brands to stand on their own, which I think is good for both.

    Besides, with what Gibson is doing to their guitars in 2015, I don't want anyone confusing my Epiphone Les Paul with a Gibson.
     
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  9. Curmudgeon

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    Amen. They're now more a "real" Les Paul than a Gibson!:lol: :io:
     
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  10. old mark

    old mark Senior Member

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    Epiphone also makes some really fine acoustic guitars for those interested in such things...I have 5 of them.
     
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  11. AJ6strinsgsting

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    I bought a 1974 Gibson Les Paul Custom in 1988, put in a gold Schaller tailpiece with fine tuners, then some thugs broke into my apartment in Hollywood .... Fast forward, 2006, L.A. P.D. gets in contact with me and tell me, that found my guitar and I went down to pick her up .... It was still in near mint condition, like they never pulled it out to play it. I added a Dimarzio Evolution for the bridge slot and a Seymour Duncan Screamin' Demon for the neck.

    Then in 2007, my Woman gave me money to buy any guitar without a Floyd Rose.
    I got an Epiphone and upgraded my electronics and added a Schaller tail piece with fine tuners and it's an equal to my Gibson LPC. I installed some Dragon Fire Alnico 5 Vintage Gold Screamers pickups ,that made my Epi LPC more dynamic and nastier than the Gibson. :headbanger:
     
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  12. Alty

    Alty Senior Member

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    Guitar Player - July 2002

    When he appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show with Mary Ford in 1951 they used these guitars.

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    Which are Epiphone Test-Bed Guitars.


     
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  13. jadm

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    Epiphone vs Gibson - is not nearly as important as the skill level of the person playing it.
     
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    exactly.

    Give EVH a LP and he'll be better than 99.9% of the people with a Gibson.

    Master the craft and learn to make music.

    A good question to ponder would be, if Les Paul was not in fact the creator of the Les Paul, would he be able to swing the cost of a Les Paul or would he buy an Epiphone....
     
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  17. Who

    Who are you? Who who who who.... Premium Member

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    Les shown smiling ^^^^^ because Epi hadn't been forced to completely F* up the headstock shape, yet. ;)
     
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  18. Curmudgeon

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    Y'know, I don't even notice the headstock shape any more. When I bought my first Epi (the '56GT), it bugged the hell out of me, but I gradually accepted it--probably because I saw it all the time, either on my guitars or in pics of other MLPers' guitars. Now, when I see a Gibby the headstock looks too small. At any rate, headstock shape is way down on my list of desirable features on a guitar.
     
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  19. RandyRhoadsLesPaul

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    Both Gibson and Epiphone are great! I am glad Les wanted to have affordable Les Pauls for everyone to enjoy.
     
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  20. 2themax

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    This just showed up in the Epiphone email - definately the total package... Like Malikon said shredding before there was shredding...

    I've had a set of Gibby Classic 57's in the drawer for over a year now, just getting around to putting them in my '07 Epi Std... It's been a great axe since I picked it off the wall at GC - it's nice way to celebrate Mr. LP's 100th.

    Enjoy the youtube, it's great...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJaNMZmBR6E#t=491
     
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