Line 6 Helix 2204 Mod Appreciation post

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  1. Dineley

    Dineley Senior Member

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    Just that stock amp with a noise gate, is like the perfect patch, obviously I have created many other more finely tuned presets, however I just throw that 2204 Mod model on and I can jam all night long, no tweaking needed.
     
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    mmd Senior Member

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    Awesome. What's your secret? That model drives me up the wall because I HAD a modified JCM800 2204 head for about 10 years. I can't get the model to respond like my real one at all!!

    I'd like to know what (if any) tweaks you are making to "perfect" it. What cab/IR, etc. Thanks!!
     
  3. Dineley

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    Likely me not having had a 2204 is my secret, I run it through poweramp on my 5150 III into a 80's Marshall cabinet... so that might be the other secret,

    But besides that I fun it with very little bass, and mids around 7 and treble just at 5.

    But yeah I'm guessing if I had owned a real one I would maybe not be quite as impressed by it.
     
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    mmd Senior Member

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    Cool. Gotcha. Me having had one could be part of the issue, but I have had a lot of the amps modeled in the Helix and pretty much all of them do what the "real one" did. I am thinking it's just that the mod is VERY different from mine - the regular 2204 responds pretty accurately.

    Thanks for the info! Enjoy it man!
     
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    cybermgk Singin' the body lectric Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    Wasn't that true of 2204s though? Amps varied from amp to amp.
     
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    Yeah. My "plain" 2204 was an '81 vertical input. My modded head was a later horizontal input. The mod was mostly on the front end - a 2 position toggle was added that kicked in an LED based gain stage. It made the amp SING at all volumes. It was a very fat sounding drive - which was nice because a lot of the preamp mods thinned the sound out and made the amps wimpier, lol....
     
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    The 2204 Mod was my go-to higher gain amp for about a year, but I have to say I am beginning to think the Line 6 Epic is suiting me the best. I can't get a bad sound out of it.
     
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    The 2204 is really a great model on the Helix. I just spent a solid 15 minutes trying to find (online) exactly what mod was done to the actual 2204 that Line 6 used to get their ones and zeros. Couldn't find anything.:dunno:
     
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    the 2204 MOD is a "line 6 original" based on a 2204 running as a pre-amp, into a 6L6 power amp section... it's like the opposite world of a Metallica rig between master of puppets and black album... (which was a mesa mkIIc running as a preamp into a marshall power amp)

    to my ears, it sounds kinda like the crunch channel of my 6505MH... and that sorta makes sense... and yes, that is a great thing. it's a little too thumpy for metallica, (at least I haven't been able to dial it in for that) but it is good. I recommend using a dual cab (stock cabs) and mixing them... I liked the mix of a v30 4x12 and a T75 4x12 (can't remember exactly which ones)

    the regular JCM800 is great too, and I found a little easier to tame
     
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    Thanks for the info. Makes sense why it kills going through my 6L6 power section lol
     

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