Let's talk about Vintage Melody Makers...

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  1. hecube

    hecube Senior Member

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    That's a bit much.

    Unless I'm mistaken and prices have gone up sharply in the last year, I wouldn't have expected an 8+ 1959 MM to cross 2000...
     
  2. Left Paw

    Left Paw Senior Member

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    Really overpriced. The market is down, not up.
     
  3. ColdCobra

    ColdCobra Senior Member

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    waaaay too much. I was just reading this thread, thinking that if I found a singlecut (pre 60) for under a grand I'd consider it.
     
  4. Palladio

    Palladio Senior Member

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    I agree $3299 is way too high for any single pickup MM in this market. But if you're expecting to find an original '59 Melody Maker for under a grand, you're probably going to be waiting a long time. Unless of course you luck into one at a yard sale or from a seller who has no idea what they have. I haven't seen a clean single cut sell for less than $1,200 in quite a while, and most are going for $1,500+ (one pickup version) or $2,000+ ("D" model with two pickups).

    For $1,000 or less you'll likely be looking at post 1964 models, and/or ones with a refin, changed parts, neck break, etc.
     
  5. ColdCobra

    ColdCobra Senior Member

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    Well .... I'm still waiting, so you may be right.
     
  6. LeonC

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    Well, that won't stop sellers from asking absurd prices. :laugh2:
     
  7. Left Paw

    Left Paw Senior Member

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    Yes, but asking and getting are two very different things. Some dealers are more interested in running a museum than a retail outlet.
     
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  8. marantz1300

    marantz1300 Senior Member

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    Those are very cool guitars,
    So much GAS.
    I'm looking for one now.
     
  9. marantz1300

    marantz1300 Senior Member

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    That has a different connotation in the U.K.:shock:
     
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  10. hecube

    hecube Senior Member

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    Meaning what exactly?
     
  11. freebird2

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    Can one expect most, if not all, 1961 single cuts to have the thinner neck compared to a 1959?
     
  12. LeonC

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    Don't know...by 1961's neck is a wee bit thinner than my '59 (which I just picked up about a month ago). It's hardly what I think of as the "thin 60s" style neck. Not even close. It's much closer to the '59. The neck on my '63 Epi Olympic is damn near identical to the '61. My conclusion is that the early 60s MMs did NOT have kind of thin carves that Gibson used on other models, e.g., 335s, etc.
     
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  13. kcvintageguitars

    kcvintageguitars Senior Member

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    I've got a '61 single cut MM. I can check, but don't think it's a small neck. Most other 1961 Gibson anything's have had the thinner profile in my experience.
     
  14. morbidalex666

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    Plus one on that.
    They didn't thin them out; maybe a general profile change to one with less shoulders.
    Then again, you know Gibson consistency...
     
  15. freebird2

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    I would like to know what your '61 neck measurements are. Thanks and much appreciated.
     
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    Here are the first-fret thickness measurements of Melody Makers that I've owned:

    1959 .876"
    1960 .883"
    1960 .886"
    1961 .780"
    1962 .799"
     
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    That's quite a difference pre-'61 to '61
     
  18. Palladio

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    Interesting to see this, thanks for posting. My personal experience is similar. '59 up until around mid 1960 the necks are .88 or so deep at the first fret and around 1" at the 12th. After that, much less depth. My later 1960 MM's are around .82" at the first fret, so it appears they got even skinnier after that in '61. The other thing is that the necks were all hand carved AFIK. My '59 isn't as deep at the first fret as some of my other early '60 MM's, but it has more shoulder, so it is the biggest neck in terms of how it feels if that makes sense.
     
  19. kcvintageguitars

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    Just checked my '61 MM singlecut. 0.827" at first fret. 0.948" at 12th. Not 50's, but it doesn't feel too small either.
     
  20. kcvintageguitars

    kcvintageguitars Senior Member

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    One of my 59's is 0.871" at first, 0.982" at 12th.
    My favorite '59 MM is 0.906" at first, 0.993" at 12th. So they are all over the place.
     
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