Les Paul special heel crack

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  1. Seattley

    Seattley Junior Member

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    Hi
    I would to get some other opinions please:
    This is a stock 59 lp special that someone offers me in a fair price.
    Only problem is this crack in the heel. He sais its only in the lacquer, but cant be 100% sure.
    I cant be sure as well.
    Added some photos.
    Thanks.
     

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  2. Jumping@shadows

    Jumping@shadows V.I.P. Member

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    That's 100% a wood break, and typical of LPS'- I'd not sweat it if the price is right, and it floats your boat ;)
     
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  3. RayTorvalds

    RayTorvalds Senior Member

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    Seller says it's only in the lacquer. Not very nice of them. You can't tell me the seller actually thinks that.
     
  4. Seattley

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    Thanks.
     
  5. dCi_king

    dCi_king Senior Member

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    I think that it´s broken wood, not the lacquer.
     
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    brentrocks Guitar Hack Premium Member

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    Oh my god!!! That is so in the wood!!!

    My 11 year old daughter could see that
     
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    Totally dishonest seller, like above....a two year old could tell that!
     
  8. scottyk

    scottyk Senior Member

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    Yep it's a heel crack. Pretty common and really not that big of a deal if it's old and verified to be solid.
    My '54 Junior and '60 TV Special have them and it is Zero issue.
     
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    That would be a really strange lacquer crack.
    I vote wood crack.
     
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  10. Sharky

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    how much is a fair price? 2 - 2.5 k $$ might be OK for a cracked heel
     
  11. scottyk

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    If it's solid I don't think you'll see that big of a price drop. 2-2.5K would be a very good deal IMO.
     
  12. jeggz

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    It was on NYC Craigslist forever.
     
  13. Greco

    Greco Senior Member

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    There's a few things here. That is most likely 100% a crack in the wood. The seller either doesn't know what he's talking about or is being dodgy. A solid repair is a solid repair. I'm not sure of the physics of these breaks, but I think it's probably likely on some that the neck was smashed off leaving that corner of the tenon behind. I can't see how it would crack like that leaving the neck still in and still be playable. Let alone just being a crack in the lacquer. You've pretty much got to expect a heel repair with DC Specials though unless it is a 60 or later with the moved pickup. I say check it out, it could be a great guitar.
     
  14. greyhound66

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    This one has me chuckling. "Seller says it's just the lacquer?"
     
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    Ok, so consensus is that's an actual wood crack. Next thing we want to know is where is this being sold, and more importantly, what is the "reasonable" price?
     
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    It looks like wood cracked for sure and this wouldn't be the first DBL Cut Special to do this. It can be repaired to look much better than it does.
     

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