Kit clinic-all brands- routine & fixes

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  1. silverkw

    silverkw Senior Member

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    I believe current historics are dyed black. The advantage is that you don't have to use knife to scrap the logo since the logo does not take in the dye.
     
  2. Dirk$Diggler

    Dirk$Diggler Senior Member

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    I would'nt recomend dye at all. I tried dying the headstock veneer with Fiebings Oil dye from Stew Mac. The dye darkened the MOP logo and the only way to get it off was by sanding the logo, messing up the veneer at the same time.

    After retrying a few times with the same result even when dying the details with a thin brush I gave up. I shot the headstock with black nitro and then scraped the logo with a razor blade which was surprisingly easy. The nitro did'nt stick that hard to the MOP and came off with real straight edges around the logo. The only disadvantage was that the clear nitro dissolved the black messing up the edges a bit. Rescraping and then shooting several very, very thin coats of clear took care of that problem fine. Good luck! :)
     
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    I have a "faux" mop inlay, and I thought about taping it before I shot the black.
    Any thougts on this? Is that 'not' the way to go?

    Swoodrum, I took a 3 sided file, marked the center of the headstock, and just sliced a
    line down the middle. Then I took my dremel, with a small drum sander attachment, and
    shaped the rest by sanding it down. Mine's not perfect, but it'll do for me.
     
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    w666 Senior Member

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    I have had very good luck with coating the inlay with Vaseline before I spray. Use a very tiny bush, and be very careful not go out side the inlay area (Ah, now I know why my kindergarten teacher gave me so much grief for coloring outside the lines!). Then just shoot black right over it, and let it cure for a day or two. Now the fun part.....use a piece of masking tape that's big enough to cover the entire area, and rub it lightly to ensure good adhesion. Then, pull the tape off "smartly", and your inlay will be exposed. You may still have a tiny bit of scraping to do.

    Clean up the mess with Naptha very well (and several times) before you put clear on top.

     
  5. emoney

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    Thank you sir. Always helpful...as usual!
     
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    Here's a mock-up pic of mine in it's current stage. I'm searching for how to
    measure to drill for the bridge/stoptail...
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    Almost ready for clear
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    Do you mean for location or hole size?
     
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    Thanks, I used a dremel sander, but a big one...it's not perfect, but I'm not building a Gibson Les Paul...I'm building a copy....as long as the guitar plays great thats all that matters to me.
     
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    Hi, does anyone know what glue to use when trying to attach binding to wood and then binding to binding? any tips would be very welcome. Ive tried super glue but all I end up with is my finger glued to to the headstock .. It driving me insane..

    Rich
     
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    I melted down some binding in acetone to make a glue. works really well.
     
  12. emoney

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    It was location, but I found the Stewmac instructions and they made a lot
    of sense when I read them. As a matter of fact, it was kind of a "duh moment"
    when you think about the thing being a 24.75" scale guitar. But hey, I'm new
    at this whole 'building/assembling' thing.:laugh2:
     
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    Another suggestion;

    Both Lowe's and Home Depot sell a Minwax Ebony Stain that works great for the headstock.
    At least it did with my holly veneer. It takes a few coats, but now I now why the factory
    ends up with that little black line on the sides of the headstock. It comes from the stain
    soaking into the wood. Almost made me look like I knew what I was doing, lol.

    This is a crappy cell phone pic, but you can see the progess;

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Juan7fernandez

    Juan7fernandez Senior Member

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    If any one wants to sale their LP-4 (custom) Kit please let me know. I'm interested in getting one.
     
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    does anyone have a picture documentary of drilling the tailpiece and bridge holes? im kinda nervous about this area..still learning the basics please forgive my stupidity..
     
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    that was alot of help bossman302 thanks. is there a handy link around here for setting the bridge with proper intonation? im learning more everyday thanks guys.. imassuming that the treble side post hole should be 24 3/4 and bass side 1/8 longer?
     
  18. emoney

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    Don't assume 1/8". The Stewmac side says "Between 1/16th - 1/8th". I think
    you're supposed to set the treble side, and then try and intonate by moving
    the bass side away. Also, this tool helps with setting both bridge and stoptail
    if you don't have a drill press;
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    Your regular drill, be it electric or cordless fits in and this allows you to drill an
    exact hole, eliminating the concern for it not being 90degrees in.
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    I have a drill press, but it's too short to drill the stop tail piece so I picked this
    up at Harbor Freight for $17.94 (plus tax, of course:shock:). I was worried
    about this step too, but this tool helped a lot and once I did it, realized I had
    been overly cautious. Good luck and don't forget to post pics.
     
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    Consensus is that anything between 4 - 5 should work. Congrats, the hard part's over.
     

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