Keep Your Guitar in Tune : changing and stretching new strings

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  1. Malikon

    Malikon Henshin! V.I.P. Member

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    I've adjusted Strats that were in tune. You just need to make sure that the screwdriver is a perfect fit, so it doesn't strip the screwhead.

    ...but that applies to any situation where you use a screwdriver.

    The proper screwdriver head in the proper screw, can't strip out,...in my experience. It grips too well to 'skip' across the screw.

    ...that being said,..if I were tightening the claw (which would raise the string pitch even higher,..increasing the tension)...then yeah I'd loosen the strings first.


    ...that was one of the things the bugged the sh*t out of me about Strats,...actually maybe the only thing. I had to do setups on it at least once a month because the saddles would move.

    And then instead of adjusting 2 screws (like on an LP) you're adjust 12 tiny little allen screws,..2 in each saddle.

    That got real old real quick. :laugh2:

    I prefer the sound and feel of an LP,..but I LOVE how much easier they are to setup.

    Well cut nut, proper relief in the neck via T-rod adjustment, and set the bridge/string height? That's it,...You're off and racing.

    No constant tuning and retuning,..adjusting a couple things, retuning,..adjusting a couple things,..retuning.

    Strats are great guitars,...but damn they're a lot of work to keep running in a perfect and optimal state.

    ...at least in my experience. It became a real chore keeping it optimal 100% of the time.
     
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  2. MooCheng

    MooCheng Senior Member

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    yeah they do tend to move, loctight or nail varnish on the threads stops 'em loosing an they can still be adjusted later if you want to, Dont use paint, I found out that was,nt a good idea :)

    like the vid' btw
     
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    AJBehrens Junior Member

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    Has anyone else ever been tightening the low-E, without noticing that it wasn't in the nut, and was being wound against the headstock leaving a dent?

    No, just me being a plonker then :slash:
     
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    Is it possible to over-tighten a string when putting it on? My D string sounds a but twangy (as if it isn't actually tight enough, even though it is in tune) and I am wondering if I damaged the string by tuning way past the D (I wasn't paying attention)?
     
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    Nothing wrong with import guitars. Having a $2500.00 Gibson isn't gonna make you sound or play better, nor is it gonna stay in tune any better. It's all bull****.
     
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    Bookmarked. Thanks for sharing this!
     
  8. Malikon

    Malikon Henshin! V.I.P. Member

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    no problem.

    I see a lot of people complain about how Les Pauls wont stay in tune and I honestly never have that problem, not with any of them. So I don't think it's the Les Pauls. :laugh2:
     
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  9. NorlinBlackBeauty

    NorlinBlackBeauty Senior Member

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    Nice vid, especially for those who have not done this.

    I've been at this a long time. I've always looped the string under and over at the start to insure a secure lock. Makes them a tiny bit harder to remove, but they are not going to slip.

    Lemon oil is a subject of some debate. I used it back in the day - no longer. The acidity can have a negative effect should any make its way into the frets. Martin guitar specifically states to avoid lemon oil. They recommend 3 in 1 oil or what is currently used at the factory (been there 3 times) Dr. Duck's Ax Wax (no wax in it).

    I use a tiny drop on a clean cotton rag, rub it in to the wood one or two sections at a time to clean finger grime, then buff what little excess is left off. No real need to let it soak in. Your mileage may vary ...

    I pull the strings to stretch as well, but only 2 or 3 times. I may try more.

    This may be mentioned here as well - wash your hands well before playing (and changing strings) if you are able. Carefully wipe your strings down after playing with a clean cotton cloth. Your strings will thank you for it by lasting longer.
     
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    I've just started putting vaseline on the nut and saddles at string changes, keeps in tune now when bending. I've just put on some elixir coated strings and my finger tips are still grey after playing, the fretboard is clean.
     
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    I've snapped a high e string when changing it by tightening it too much, use an electric tuner now, makes life so much easier.
     
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    NorlinBlackBeauty Senior Member

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    Not sure I'd want any petroleum product soaking into the bone nut (assuming that is what the Epi has). Pencil graphite works very well.
     
  13. Malikon

    Malikon Henshin! V.I.P. Member

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    I think Epi uses a nylon or plastic nut.
    Bone is a bit too high end for a stock Epi.

    ...actually I can't think of any guitar that comes with a bone nut stock. Usually it's Corian or some type of synthetic bone on the higher ends guitars. I think ESP/LTD uses Tusq (last time I looked was years ago.)

    Most regular guitars seem to use nylon or plastic nuts though. And with plastic being made from petroleum I really don't think it's going to harm anything.

    ..that being said don't coat the nut with giant globs of it, a little bit goes a long way. I use a q-tip to get it down in the slot then I wipe away any excess. And once the strings are seated in the slots I wipe it again so there's nothing residual, the only vaseline is under the string in the slots.
     
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    i Use dry powdered graphite..for many years,, I have bone,,brass and stock nuts..

    Never a creak or problem..
     
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    I can't say that I've had issues with either my LP or 339 staying in tune. When I change the strings I make sure to stretch them properly and bingo.. they stay in tune.
     
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    epi and gibson aren't bone nuts, I don't know how vaseline would harm bone anyway.
     

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