Keep Your Guitar in Tune : changing and stretching new strings

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  1. Malikon

    Malikon ジャンプアップ V.I.P. Member

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    It's a long video, basically a lesson on:

    strings themselves
    string changing
    stretching
    different ways to tune; Relative and Harmonic.

    I know I try to keep my videos short, but this topic I felt needed expanding on to cover related topics. And basically be a lesson instead of just a quick demonstration.

    So this is an actual 30 minute lesson.

    Hope you enjoy. :dude:

     
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    River Senior Member

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    I use almost the exact same procedure.

    1) I do knot my strings (wrap them back under and over the string going into the post)

    2) I keep my string tight by running the string under the bottom of the side my thumb and over the top of my ring finger on my right hand and twist my hand to make the "Z" shape...

    Great video Malk... :thumb:
     
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    thank ya Sir.
     
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    It's great that you take the time to make these videos, Malikon. When I started in electric guitar the web was a great reference tool for stuff like this, so I'm sure there will be many folks that will be very appreciative.

    Couple of questions- Do you not find any benefits from lubricating the bridge and nut before putting on the strings? I gather you didn't if the nut was "properly cut", as I believe you put it. As a follow up to that, what are the tell tale signs if a nut not being properly cut? Is it an intonation thing or strings going out of tune? Have you found bone nuts or any other type of nut material to help the strings stay better in tune?

    Thanks.
     
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    I like bone and corian nuts myself, but that's just me.

    Improperly cut nut?

    When it's doing what mine is starting to do, (you can actually see and hear it in the video.)

    The D string is starting to bind up, and the high E is starting to have a slight buzz when it's open, almost sitar'ish.

    Won't be long before I need to replace it but it's held up since 2010 so I'm not really complaining, it's still the stock Epi nut.

    No I've never lubricated the bridge.
    I only lubricate the nut if I absolutely have to.

    A truly well made, properly made nut,...is a thing of beauty. It really is. And honestly you don't see it very often and I've 'paid' to have nuts replaced that looked like they were made with a hacksaw. Finding a guy that really knows how to make a proper nut? .... idk,...I haven't found one yet in person.

    On a truly righteous nut the strings only sit about halfway in the slots, literally it seems like half the string is 'above' the nut. And the fall off on the nut will match the angle of the headstock, maybe just a tiny bit further then the headstock angle.

    So really the only point that the string touches the nut is the very, very front, right where the string touches it and slopes down. Seriously that's it, just a tiny little point of contact.

    And when it's done right the strings wont pop out of the nut,...you'd think they would but they don't.

    I've only seen a few guitars in my time that really had a perfect nut installed. But once you see them and play them, then you go back and look at Epi nuts and see the strings are like 1/8 buried into the nut,....you start to realize what a POS it is.

    Then you look around the guitar store and you start to wonder why it seems like every guitar company has sh*tty nuts poorly cut, out of crappy nylon type material.
     
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  7. LiveSimply

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    thanks
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    Bookmarked , Thx.
     
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    If you are changing strings on a Strat with a floating trem do you remove all the strings at the same time?
     
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    I used to. As long as you're not changing string gauges the bridge should return to the same spot.

    Generally with Strats people take the backplate off for string changes (many just leave it off, and lose it.) If the bridge doesn't return to exactly where you want it, it's pretty easy to adjust the 2 claw screws that the bridge is anchored to, to raise or lower it.

    (loosen the screws = raising, tightening the screws = lowering)
     
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    Thanks Mal!
     
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    everyone that has finished studying the guide lines in the tune up thread should immediately come here
    this should be a sticky
     
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    Malikon ジャンプアップ V.I.P. Member

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    a sticky eh?

    :hmm:

    I'm still waiting for my VIP status. :laugh2: :laugh2:

    I keed, I keed,...I prefer being an underdog.
     
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  16. Backwoods

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    Thank you Malikon, this guide was great. As someone just beginning their journey with guitar, this was exactly what I was looking for. I haven't attempted my first string change yet, but when I do, this video is bookmarked. I did try the string stretching technique today though. Thanks again for taking the time to create the video and share some of your knowledge.
     
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    Well done dude!

    Since I've been using Ernie Ball Rock 'n' Roll 10's (steel core, pure nickel wound), I find it hard to play anything else. Very similar to the DR's that you like.
     
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    Great job!!! :thumb: I expected everything and got even more :D
     
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    Great video. I'm sure it will help a lot of people who are just starting out on guitar.
    It took me a while when I first started (no helpful videos back then) to figure out the best way to change my strings - and I eventually came up with a method very similar to yours.
     
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    Malikon you's V.I.P in book of our

    incoming to yall
     
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