Joe Walsh On Les Paul Set Up

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  1. herbalist

    herbalist Senior Member

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    I just ran across this on youtube and thought some may find it helpful, or at least, entertaining. I'm a Joe Walsh fan anyway. Enjoy.
     
  2. GibsonKramer

    GibsonKramer The Three G's Premium Member

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    That's EXACTLY where I learned to tune my LP.
     
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  3. DarrellV

    DarrellV Nick! Heath! Jarrod! There's a Fire in the Barn! Premium Member

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    You mean, all the ones that magically stay in tune despite the naysayers? :eek2: Those ones? :rofl:
     
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    GibsonKramer The Three G's Premium Member

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    This video was a game changer. I had issues with the G String, just like a lot of people. Thought like others, that Gibson must be defective.

    I own a Floyd equipped Kramer (floating FR, no route), as well. That guitar, literally never goes out of tune. I've tried. Dive bombs, stretching. Damn thing, never goes out of tune. But, it is the biggest pain in the ass, to change strings, and tune. I mostly don't play the Kramer, because I like to switch up my tuning, while I'm playing.

    I pull a LP out, I start to play. Usually, they're in tune. I want to change tuning? Loosen them up... tune, little stretch, tune... good to go. Going back to standard, I usually just tune back up... no need to stretch.
     
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    PierM Premium Member

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    Worst thing you can do when tuning your guitars is using 5/7 harmonics. That's really ABC.
     
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    Christosterone Premium Member

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    I'm kinda shocked at the whole lotta love bend trick...well, surprised no one ever corrected me...
    No wonder I haven't sounded like Jimmy all these years...

    Btw, cool video...wonder if they raised the price of that white custom after this vid...

    As I always say, if you think you have nothing left to learn then you are correct...

    -Chris
     
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    GibsonKramer The Three G's Premium Member

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    Yeah, I liked that he gave that little secret away. Couldn't believe it was that stupid simple.
     
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    I like how he doesn't break his strings when he stretches them like that:laugh2:
     
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    GibsonKramer The Three G's Premium Member

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    Mine don't break, either.

    Actually... that's when I change them. When I'm tuning, and one snaps... time to change.

    I don't remember the last time, I changed strings. I almost changed them on my '68 RI last night, when I loosened them up, to measure with calipers... then I thought, "naw... wait until one breaks." :dude:
     
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    Thumpalumpacus Senior Member

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    I gotta change my strings about every 25 hours of playing time. I can sure remember the last time I did that chore ... because 25 hours goes fast.
     
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    GibsonKramer The Three G's Premium Member

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    Unfortunately my hand has been acting up lately. Some issue in my back/shoulder, the VA has been working on. Though, the main hold up on playing, is all my guitars are in their cases, and in my closet... and a few in the living room, which are the ones that I play right now, while I'm waiting for the contractor to finish my Room of Pauls.

    But, I pretty much play them all. There's a couple/few that don't get a lot of attention, but its a pretty steady rotation of at least 10 guitars. 250 hours of play, between string changes. I don't remember when.
     
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    Once you can feel flat spots on the windings under the strings it is high time for a change. Worn strings accelerate fret wear.
     
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    herbalist Senior Member

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    I was surprised by by the bend trick too. I can't say that I sound just like Jimmy now, but it did make a difference. Thanks Joe!

    I'll bet they either raised the price on that LP, a custom wasn't it, deluxe? I forget, or it went home with somebody there. Me, I would have had to have had it one way or the other. Sell the car, whatever.:D

    Thanks Chris.
     
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    DarrellV Nick! Heath! Jarrod! There's a Fire in the Barn! Premium Member

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    Wow! I just watched the vid and I'm shocked to see him doing what I have been doing for years.

    I never sought instruction on most any thing I do guitar wise unless I hit a real stumper. My playing shows that!

    But what he shows by pulling on the string to 'set' it and then tune up, I found that helpful on Bass years ago.

    People around me used to think I was nuts ripping up on those strings then letting them go with a loud slap, but it worked!

    My bass has a top load bridge with a very small break angle across the saddles. The saddles are rollers to boot, so I have also found it helpful to push the string down on both sides of the roller to help it to bend flat across the bridge.

    If you look closely at a bridge like this you will notice that the string is too thick to bend down to a flat angle on its own, but will be slightly humped as it passes over the saddle.

    I have also found this trick helpful for getting rid of what I call 'false harmonics' when trying to tune.

    These cause the tuner needle to swing all over the place on the lower string.

    Pressing the strings down into the saddles creates a tighter bond between the two and eliminates the wavering tones.
     
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    Great video. I still watch it once in a while.
     
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    To be honest, my playing sounds more like cats fighting in an alley than Jimmy...
    He is unattainable[for me]

    Love this video though....wish more of the greats would do this kind of stuff..

    -Chris
     
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    Krammer.JPG This is my '85 kramer it had it strings changed a 1000 times and it never got easier.
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    The golden rule in all if that was tuning UP to pitch. If you go a little sharp detune and bring it back up to pitch. If more people did that one little thing it would probably eliminate 90% of tuning issues. I don't always stretch the string but a small upward tug at the 12th fret won't go astray. Great video from one of my favourite characters. Glad he is still alive.
     
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    DarrellV Nick! Heath! Jarrod! There's a Fire in the Barn! Premium Member

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    If you're not a guitar player, then maybe you should change the channel! :thumb:
     
  20. Thumpalumpacus

    Thumpalumpacus Senior Member

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    GK, best of luck getting your hand seen after. I know from my own experience how difficult it can be dealing with the VA.
     
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