Jazz chord examples (for ear)

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  1. To Need a Woman

    To Need a Woman Senior Member

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    I've realised that there's a few chords that I often mess around with, but that have never actually encountered. So I'd like to get more used to the sound of the chords below, without just thinking "ah that's jazz sounding"! Any good good examples where these would be well emphasised in songs?

    Chords

    m6,
    7sus2,
    9 chord (this one doesn't seem to have a very distinctive sound),
    7b13 - such as G7b13 (3x344x),
    7b5 - such as Bb7b5 (6x675x),
    maj7b5

    I've noticed the 7b5 chord sounds nice played a semi-tone up from the I chord, before resolving.

    Here's a nice one for a D7sus2 -

    Thank you
     
  2. huw

    huw V.I.P. Member

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    m6 is an odd one, because it's an "anagram" of a m7b5 (Dm6 = D F A B; Bm7b5 = B D F A) and one could argue that a common progression like Bm7b5 > E7 > Am is actually Dm6 > E7 > Am. Context would usually provide an answer (if one were necessary).

    However, in the James Bond Theme there is an easily recognisable rising semitone figure that goes (single notes) B > C > C# > C etc over an Em harmony. As the notes in that rising line are 5, b6, & 6 of the key when the C# is sounding that's as unambiguous a m6 sound as you're going to get.

    :)
     
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    To Need a Woman Senior Member

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    A few 9 chords here:



    And a Bbm6 in this:

     
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    To Need a Woman Senior Member

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    JonR Senior Member

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    Pretty much all the chords here are 9th chords:

    (The one in the break in the intro is an aug triad.)
     
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    JonR Senior Member

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    Girl From Ipanema actually contains many of those other chords you were asking about.

    In the Sinatra version (key F major):

    0:30 - "one she passes goes" = Gbmaj7b5. It's strictly Gbmaj7#11, but he's singing the #11 as a low b5, and the Db is not really audible. IOW, with no 5th, the #11 can sound like a b5, but to call it maj7b5 would imply there is no 5th in the scale, whereas there is. There is no scale - at least not in common use - which contains a maj7 and a b5.

    0:31 - neat turnaround! Am7-Abmaj13-Dbmaj13-Gbmaj13. (Tricky if not impossible on one guitar!)

    The chords of the bridge in full (0:50-1:21) are:

    |Gbmaj7#11 - - - | - - - - |B9 - - - | - - - - |
    |F#m9 - - - | - - - - |D9 - - - | - - - - |
    |Gm9 - - - | - - - - |Eb9#11 - - - | - - - - |
    |Am7 - - - |D7b5b9 - - - |Gm7 - - - |C7b5b9 - - - |

    At the end, the tonic (Fmaj9) alternates with Gb7#11 a few times.
     
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    To Need a Woman Senior Member

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    Thanks a lot Jon,

    And is the very first chord a Abmaj7b5?

    I thought that the chord at 0:44 (the one just after the Gm7) might have sounded like a Gb7b13?
     
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    slug_maine Senior Member

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    I'm in awe.
     
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    JonR Senior Member

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    The very first chord of the Sinatra version? That's the tonic, F69 - alternating with Bbm6.
    Close! I had a brain fart about that chord - mis-remembered it as a maj7#11, and therefore misheard when I listened! (The backing is unclear when Sinatra sings that phrase.) It's a 7#11, as is clearer when Jobim sings on the repeat (0:44).

    I don't hear a b13, although it's possible. There seems to be no 5th in the chord, so you could call it Gb7b5, and a D natural (b13 or #5) would not then be out of place. Quite easy on guitar, as C9b5/Gb: 2-3-2-3-3-x.

    Compare with Gb7#11: 2-4-2-3-1-x ... and G7b5 (C7/Gb): 2-3-2-3-1-x. (The 1st string could be left open on any of these.) They all resolve nicely to Fmaj7. Personally I prefer it without the D.
    Gb7#11 would the standard lydian dominant bII chord type.
     
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  10. To Need a Woman

    To Need a Woman Senior Member

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    Thanks
    Those 69 chords (or 6sus2 as I think of them) can be a bit ambiguous depending on whether the the 6th is played lower or higher than the 9.

    Lots of different voicings for them:

    F69 - x87788
    A69 - x04455
    D69 - xx0430 or (x x 0 9 10 7)
    F69 - xx3031
     
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    To Need a Woman Senior Member

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    Interesting to see Knopfler, who's a pop song writer, be so well versed with all these jazz chords, which he never really uses in his songs!
     
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    Hatefulsob Senior Member

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    If you check out the Jazz Guitar Lessons menu at jazzguitar.be you'll find plenty of information (in digestable chunks) on the basics of forming chords and embellishing them with color tones and tensions. It's really a great resource.
    http://www.jazzguitar.be/jazz_guitar_lessons.html
     
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    To Need a Woman Senior Member

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    Thanks for that Hatefulsob,

    It was nice to try playing those scales by ear. I don't think there's much about chords there though.

    Here's an Em9 at 5:25
     
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    Frogfur Senior Member

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    Dude..you don't need no stinking jazz chords. You can play everything with A D and E.
    :cheers:
     
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    Hatefulsob Senior Member

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    Rocket science, no, simple math yes. Play the notes and let your ear learn from that.
    I hate to come off as gruff but ....someone posts asking for knowledge, information, assistance - some one then responds with just what they asked for, what they need, and then the info is rejected because the person who asked for help with what they don't know or fully understand, thinks it's the wrong way to learn.(?)
    There are freaking 12 notes in all of Western music, that's all. You give way too little respect for rocket science man. I pointed you to exactly the knowledge that you seek (and good for you in seeking it), please don't short change yourself by looking away.
     

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