I think it is going to be the Blueshawk ...

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  1. navigate40

    navigate40 Member

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    Well...I have been playing for years, but no gigging. Just my own enjoyment. I have a bd coming up and am thinking about rounding out my stable of axes with a present to myself.

    Currently, I have a Strat and an Epi LP standard plus top Pro. I put twin P90's in the strat (as a test bed) and really liked them. But, think a strat should be a strat. So....the strat is going to an HSS configuration (two Fender Fat 50's and a fender humbucker...or I can go back to SSS Fat 50's).

    I have been thinking about a P90 guitar. Tried the WildKat and liked it, so, looked at the 339 P90 Pro. But...the more I think about it, the more I think that archtops are best with humbuckers. Most of the P90's are in solid body guitars and most archtops are humbuckers...there is probably a reason?

    I found what seems ...to me...to be an intriguing possibility. The Epi Bluehawk. Twin P90 PRO's in a semi-hollow body, about the size and shape of an LP.

    The more I play my LP...the more I love it. The shape works well for me and I just like it.

    The Blueshawk seems a quality build with a solid body and solid maple top (and the nice veneer). It is a semi-hollow, but, nothing on the scale of the 335 or 339....it is really more like an LP. The varitone circuit....seems interesting and full of possibilities. The controls are simpler than the LP....and I like that too.

    The Gibson version seemed very well liked. [I *think* the Gibson version was a poplar body with a laminate top...not sure....so the Epi version with a solid Mahogany body and solid maple top seems good]

    The other alternative would be to take the twin P90 pickguard I have and put in another strat....but....that could be more expensive than just buying a Blueshawk (especially on sale)....and leave me with 2 strats, instead of: a Strat, an LP and a Blueshawk. I do not want to have just another strat or LP with P90's.

    The advantage of the Blueshawk over the 339 (to me) is its LP like shape, varitone control and less hollow space ....which is better for a humbucker, perhaps not a P90.

    Finally, looking at the back of the Blueshawk, there seems to be major access to the internals...so...upgrading might be easy.

    All thoughts and comments appreciated.

    Thank you

    [BTW...I play a wide variety...from Reggae to Rock, surf to country, some pop, even. Not much for distortion....play mostly clean]
     
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    I used to own the gibson version,it is actually smaller than an lp,and in my experience the varitone was useless.could not tell any differences in the tone.
     
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    The Blueshawk scale length is a little longer, like a Fender. It may not feel like a typical Epi/Gibson to you. I had a regualr Nighthawk and it was a very nice, lightweight guitar.
     
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    Try an SG with P90s.
     
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    Hello!

    Thank you for the replies.

    I heard an Epi BH played using the varitone. It seemed to work well. Epi has the specs on their site. No doubt all settings would not be useful, but if a couple are interesting...all the more fun.

    I think the size is about that of an SG....since it apparently fits in an SG case, but not an LP. (and apparently an LP will not fit into an SG case). The slightly smaller size than an LP, along with reduced weight would be fine with me.

    Scale length is fine, I go back and forth between the Strat and LP.

    Have been looking at other P90 guitars. For whatever reason, the SG does not appeal. If I were to go that route....would rather do another LP, with P90's. Will look at PRS, G&L, not sure what else. But, also not sure what the advantages might be. G&L P90's seem excellent...but the ASAT body is big, bulky, heavy. PRS P90's (overseas made) are an unknown, whereas Epi P90 Pro's are well described and seem good. And then....basically back to some solid body guitar with P90's...like the Strat was. The BH seems a different animal....and thus might be a better choice (at lease not the same old ...).

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    My Nighthawk is small, light and quite playable. The semi-hollow variant may contribute a very slightly 'woodier' tone (if my experience with PRS SE semi-hollows is any measure), but nothing as dramatic as with a 335. There are a lot of boutique P90's on the market, if the stock pups don't put a smile on your face. Get it if its playability suits you. An Epi 339 with P90's (Casino Coupe?) would be another option. Loving my Epi 339's playability as well.
     
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    I like the Blueshawk and came close to pulling the trigger on one a while but scored a sweet deal on an Lollar P90 equipped Edwards LP goldtop....(I think the Lollars are too hot an may switch them out for Gibson P90s or SD staples).

    Anyway, I think from your talking around what you are looking for, I would recommend giving the Limited Edition Wildkat KOA some serious consideration. It is also a semi-hollow but the tone seems to have a bit more depth to me. I've heard the quality is tops on these also.
     
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    I had the Gibby Little Lucille (essentially a Blueshawk) and it quickly became my favourite semi. Really versatile , lightweight and playable.

    Then the chance to have a vintage LPJ came up so I moved it on. Would buy it back tomorrow though funds permitting.
     
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    Perhaps I should update this.
    I am no longer considering the Blueshawk. I liked everything about it, but found a little extra money and an amazing deal on a Gibson LP, Goldtop, twin humbuckers, and bought that.
    In the interim, I found a twin P90 soapbar pickguard and put two Lindy Fralin P90 soapbars in my Fender Strat. And WOW...what wonderful tone. Many P90 guitars are solid body (JazzMaster, Gib LP), so it is authentic sound.
    The Gib LP sound is just perfection. So, now, I have the best of both worlds.
    BUT.....now....thinking about a 335 to round things out. I have a Gibson P94 and a Gibson '57 humbucker....thinking about putting those in. Might be a good axe.
    If I do.....I will start another thread.
    Thanks
     
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    Glad you found the sound. :) I'm still on the search for a twin P90 guitar that is voiced "right" for my rig.

    I had an ES-339 Pro P90 with those Epiphone P90s in it. Loved the feel, loved the sound... but it was so much darker than my Gibson LP (uncovered 57 Classic and BB3) or my two Fenders. I couldn't use it without totally revoicing my amp and my pedals, so I ended up trading it away.

    Next target is a Gibson Les Paul Special, double cutaway with P-90s (definitely red, definitely with pickguard as they built in the mid-2000's), but an upgraded Dot got in the way and took my new guitar budget for now. :-D
     
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    Thank you. I went through a long search for the sound I wanted. Fortunately, I could. Tried every cheap P90 out there...disappointed in all. The Fralin's just had the voice that I thought was true. After getting a Gib LP.... I discovered that...if you want that Gibson sound...you need to buy a Gibson. And cheap pups were...cheap.

    Now that I have the P90 strat and LP, I can branch out. I still think Epi's are very good guitars and great bargains. I tried the WildKat and 339 Pro P90. Listening to someone play a Fender Jazzmaster and seeing that Gib had an LP with P90's made me feel that P90's in a solid body are a natural fit. And that worked out.

    If you are on the hunt...I believe there are still Gib LP Traditional T's available with P90's for $809. $899 at most. IMHO....soapbar P90's have the most authentic sound.

    A review of some old pics made me think a semi-hollow would be best with humbuckers. So....considering the 335 with probuckers. That should fill a nice niche between the LP and the P90 strat. But...not sure I need it.
     

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