Historic Changes '93-'07

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  1. Marco78

    Marco78 Senior Member

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    What means "real hondoran mahogany"? Until 2007 Gibson uses "fake" hond. mahogany? :shock:
     
  2. rumbling_groover

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    Mahogany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Gibson has always used Swietenia macrophylla in the Historic line.
     
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    SKATTERBRANE Banned

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    Yeah, they FINALLY got the top carve on the Historic Specials right. :laugh2:
     
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    :laugh2::applause:
     
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    How Bout Some Eggs With this Spam :rolleyes:
     
  6. 56lp

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    The distance between the humbuckers is slightly wider for the 97-98 Historics, than compared to the 99-08.

    I have a 98 R8 and there is a gap between the bridge pickup and the pickguard.

    MojoAxe sells a pickguard specifically for the 97-98s:

    RS Guitarworks Online Store : Aged MojoAxe LP Pickguard for 1997-1998 Historic LP's - PGH98-A

    MojoAxe Replica Les Paul Pickguards

    Based on the info from the mojoaxe website, the 09-10 Historics have a different humbucker spacing than the 97-98s and 99-08s.
     
  7. SKATTERBRANE

    SKATTERBRANE Banned

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    Actually it is wider from 1993-1998. They changed the pickguard in mid 1997 which caused the gap.
     
  8. AIHARA

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    Yes you are right
    good post
     
  9. larrypep

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    I have a 2000 R9, and I talked to Gibson - they stated the pickups were 57 Classics and the pots were "standard" pots and electronics. Their records also state it was a Heritage Cherry Sunburst (which it is).

    Based on the specs listed in this thread, where are the errors and which ones need to be corrected?

    2000

    No R8 this year
    * Vintage lifton style brown case for R9/R0.
    * Lemon Burst, Tri Burst.
    * Black Custom Art Historic case. (TKL)
    * No COA.
    * No tortoise side markers.
    * Rounded fretboard inlays.
    * Heavyweight tailpiece.
    * '57 Classic PUP's.
    * Thick jack plate.
    * Thick switch plate/washer.
    * Fine-knurl switch nut.
    * Amber knobs.
    * Gibson label potentiometers.
    * Orange drop capacitors


    Here are some pics of mine:

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  10. yeti

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    Great info here, but I can't help thinking about the poor bastard who'll have to authenticate all the "turn of the century" Historics 50 years from now.:D
     
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    cooljuk Transducer Producer Premium Member MLP Vendor

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    The tailpiece angle on my 2010 R9 seems to be correct - meaning a straight line from stud to stud would continue through the center of the two volume controls. Can someone confirm that Gibson corrected this, please?

    Also, the plastic color is a big improvement from my 2007 R9. Much less pink, but still not perfect. I can't say what year that changed, exactly. Maybe someone else can elaborate.
     
  12. DonP

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    Mine is the same way. You do know of the offset studs from Retrospec, right?
     
  13. cooljuk

    cooljuk Transducer Producer Premium Member MLP Vendor

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    Yes! I had them on my 2007 R9. I just realized that they are not needed on my 2010. I was wondering if it's a known correction or a fluke. So you have a 2010 Historic that has the correct tail angle too?
     
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    The tail piece is definitely closer than it was prior to 2009.
     
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    Moderator, it looks like we have been spammed in post 55
     
  16. shadco

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    It's hard to tell from these pics but it seems pup spacing has changed form 2010 to 2011.

    same sikline aged guard in both pics

    2010 r8

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    2011 r9

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    i don't see how you can possibly go by those photos. the only way to tell is by measuring the distance between the outer poles. those pics were taken at different angles and different distances. the strings could have been set on the bridge saddles in different places. and the bridge saddles are not lined up exactly the same on both guitars. :wave:
     
  18. cooljuk

    cooljuk Transducer Producer Premium Member MLP Vendor

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    If you're referring the space between pickups - you can't tell that from the photos either as they both have aftermarket rings and guards (the 2011 might have a factory guard but it makes no difference in this case).
     
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    Same guard on both guitars, sikline rings on both also though each has it's won set.
     
  20. cooljuk

    cooljuk Transducer Producer Premium Member MLP Vendor

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    Ok that helps.

    The different gaps between the plastics could be attributed to inexact placement of the PU ring and pickguard mounting screws at the factory and not an intended spec change. If you really want to know for sure, measure the distance between the actual pickup routes.
     

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