Historic Changes '93-'07

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    Someone slipped me a note that this is a 2010 and NOT a 2000!!
     
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    Got any inlay pix ? & a shot of the control cavity would tell too. A 2000 reissue would have Gibson branded pots and ceramic disc caps
     
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    Here is the response I got from my contact at Gibson. He confirms it is a 2010 and they did not make R8s in 2000 (but I have never seen one from 1999 in my life either)


    This serial number rolls as a 2010 LPR8. The 58’ Les Paul plain top was available from 1994-1999, same specs as LPR9 but with plain top.

    58 Les Paul figured top available 1996-1999.





    80016
    LPR8PVOWCNH1
    1958 Les Paul Plaintop VOS
    1/18/2010






    Regards,



    Gibson customer service

    service@gibson.com
     
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  8. JMV

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    That's interesting, Flick. The pots/caps had been replaced by the time I got the guitar, so no telling what was stock. I had contacted Gibson on my own and they had recored that the serial matched three guitars at the time, one of which was a 2000 but couldn't tell from the records what it was. :laugh2:

    As for the inlays, they definitely have the rounded corners typical of that era. Here are a couple of pics.

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    If it's something other than a 2000 R8, I'm all ears. I highly doubt it's a 2010, though. I picked it up in May of this year and it already had been PLEK'd and had a decent number of mods done to it. It was nicely broken in as well. Add the inlays into the mix and I don't know how it could be from 2010. :hmm:
     
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    Guess we'll never know.
     
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    Hmm that DOES appear to be a 2002 R8!! Well, I have never seen a 1999 R8 either, but Gibson says there are. Remember there are R8 Juniors as well. That one must either be a special order or a 1999 R8 that did not get a serial number until the serial numbers on 2000 R8 Juniors were well underway. Very mysterious Les Paul. Very cool.
     
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    2002

    * Genuine Kluson tuners for the early units.
    * Improved tuner bushings
    * More accurately shaped fingerboard inlays
    * Non-wire ABR-1 bridge for the early units.
    * Amber tophat knobs
    * CTS pots
    * Owners Card (listing name, serial number and the dealership), Certificate of Authenticity, Reissue Strap, an Embroidered Les Paul Swatch and a Custom Care Kit.
    * Burstbucker type 2 & 3.
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    I called Gibson and gave them the serial number of my 2002 1958 Reissue Butterscotch Flametop.
    They told me my guitar was produced in early 2002 and had '57 Classic pickups.
     
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    Only the Custom Authentic R8s of 2001 and 2002 had Burstbuckers, the normal Historic R8s of 2001-02 had 57 Classics. However ALL 2002 R9s had Burstbuckers (1 and 2)
     
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    could anyone tell me if 2004 was a good year for the R9's. I was looking at one in very good condition. and how many were made that year the # 9 4491. any information would be great thanks inadvance.
     
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    '90s guitars had a variance of hard and soft maple tops. They were graded by flame!

    Pick guards were hand cut until mid '97.
     
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    i have a Gibson R0

    serial is 0 7060

    i bought it, on the info that it was a 1997 - but that could also relate to a 2007

    BUT............ didn't later years have the numbers M YXXXX ie. 4 digits for the production number?

    rather than M YXXX

    I've been searching for better info on knowing what features mean cetain years but not getting much luck! - anyone got any decent links?

    Maxc
     
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    The inlays are a dead give away. From 2003 onwards they have sharp pointed trapezoids before that they had more rounded edges to them.

    Also before '99 they had black side dots rather than faux tortoise shell.

    Pictures would help greatly.
     
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    Are this specs made on all Gibson CS on only for R9?
     
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    I think all the reissue guitars have these changes. My R8 does.:)
     
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    Ok, and so LP special too... good!
     

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