Help Me Understand the "Reissue" Craze

Discussion in 'Historics & Reissues' started by Detector, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. Geronimo

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    Here's a few more. The guard was off when I got it but I put it on. The guitar seems to look different in every pic. Would anybody know what color this is? I was thinking maybe bourbon burst? I posted a pic of the ad. I did get it for less!
     

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    Thanks for that @Geronimo You put in to words exactly how I felt the moment I played a Custom Shop Reissue Les Paul after years of playing modern USA Gibsons. I try to explain to people why I only look at Vintage or Custom Shop Gibsons and I will now direct them to your post. You explained it perfectly. :cheers:
     
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    And to your question @Geronimo I think your awesome new R8 may be Faded Tobacco finish judging by how dark it is in some photos. Your Traditional has a very nice finish but I often wonder why Gibson insists on doing "perimeter burst" on most of their USA Les Pauls. Always looks so strange and wrong to me.
     
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    Gr8 story and a beautiful ride! Congrats!
     
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  5. Geronimo

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    Just like Fendeer offers two or three "meh" colors in their USA line, but you can get drop dead gorgeous colors on a Squire or an expensive Custom Shop model. They would prefer you buy the more expensive one because that's where the money is. In a way that's good. People who pay more for the custom shop get a better looking finish and deserve it because of the premium up charge. And it gives people who want a better looking finish incentive to buy a Reissue. GM makes more on a tarted up Escalade than they do on a run of the mill Tahoe. If you want the bling you gotta pay.
     
  6. Geronimo

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    And maybe Gibson doesn't want anybody in an audience from a distance mistaking a USA for a Reissue.
     
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    Enjoyed reading your story. Here's mine... I grew up playing a '72 Les Paul Deluxe, which I bought used with my own money in junior high. Super thin 3 piece neck and well over 10 lbs. It's a boat anchor. I had it refretted and its served me well all through high school, college and well after. Even after I acquired other guitars, I always held on to that Deluxe for sentimental reasons and it still plays real nice.

    I always thought Custom Shop Gibsons weren't for me: the price put them out of reach, and I was never one who cared much about specs being historically accurate. I lucked out when I acquired a CS-336 in a trade. Against my better judgement, I got this guitar without ever playing it, but the seller was extremely cool and offered to take it back if I didn't like it. This one was special. FAT '59 neck, which is not the stock spec for this model, and I had never even considered a big necked guitar, as I don't have very large hands. For the first time ever, I experienced what it was like to play a guitar that felt like it was made for me. You hear people say that - it actually happens. It was then that I realized the Gibson Custom Shop instruments are just a cut above the USA guitars. From then on, any chance to play a Custom Shop Gibson guitar, I had to try it, even if I wasn't in the market, just because I wanted to see what it felt like.

    Fast forward to a few months ago when I decided that I would treat myself for my 50th birthday to a Custom Shop historic reissue. I had my sights set on a used R7 as it would be the cheapest and still have the big neck I wanted. I'd have to trade or sell one of my other guitars to afford it, but it would be worth it.

    Came real close to a trade for a 2006 R7, but the guy flaked out at the last minute. I was so bummed but I believe in Guitarma - this one just wasn't meant to be. Onwards with the hunt. In a stroke of luck, one of our forum members was selling a brand new 2017 Custom Shop LP Standard '58 (basically the 2017 R8 equivalent) and I was able to sell my guitar and buy the '58 within the course of 24 hours.

    The neck isn't as big as the '59 profile of my 336 but is still a nice full shape that fills my hand. The Custom Buckers weren't my thing - that's fine as I had other nice PAF style pickups on hand. The rest of the guitar is really just stellar. People like to bust on Gibson. I'm sure just like any brand there are going to be some that are better or worse than others. I guess I'm lucky I got a good one - it rings like a bell with a sustain that you can feel through the neck and the body and it plays evenly at every point on the neck. And damn, it's gorgeous.
     
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  8. Geronimo

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    I bought my 336 new in 2009. The store was going out of business and I snagged it for $2,000 including tax. I used to teach there so I knew the owner and he did me a solid. I kept it until last year. I have huge hands and I didn't realize at the time how those small cutaways would affect my playing in the upper register. I was playing the local casino one night and on the solo to "Smooth" my left hand literally got stuck between the neck and the cutaway. I owned the guitar for 7 years and this had never happened! I got my hand out and soldiered on but that never left my mind. And after being ok with it for 7 years, now every time I played it I was TRYING to get my hand stuck. It was my favorite guitar I have ever owned and to me the most beautiful. The fixed that issue on the Midtown's cutaways but they aren't a 336. IMG_0631.JPG
     

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    Thanks!
     
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    I couldn't have put what you said any better. Sorry it's a screen shot as couldn't find a pic lol. Mine is a 2013 r8 it's a kindred spirit burst and 1 of 25 world wide. Very similar to Joe Perry's guitar. It's a very dark burst. Just thought its very similar to yours.
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    Hmm....

    Glad you explained this to me

    And here I thought I like my reissues because I like them

    Apparently, they're expensive pieces of furniture I can afford - although it bums me that I can't sit on them :)
     
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    Yes! It looks like mine when I first opened the case. The pickguard was in the storage compartment.
     
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    I hadn't visited this thread since early in page 2 until just now. This sort of sums it up for me. It isn't the case for everyone, but it is similar for me.

    I got my first Les Paul (a '92 Studio Lite) in 1992 at age 15. I loved that thing and put more miles/wear on it and my Epiphone S-400 (my first guitar in 1988) than probably any other guitars I've owned before or since. A few years later, I got a '78 Custom from a pawn shop and those were my two Les Pauls for many years. Around 2012, I decided that I wanted a Standard and bought a used '02. I liked it a little better than my current two. In fact, I actually sold my Studio Lite and Custom to buy a second '02 Standard Plus. With as much as I liked my first two and then my second two, when I bought my first Reissue (a '13 R8) in 2013, it was a complete revelation for me. Those two Standard Plus' were fantastic guitars, but the R8 was clearly better to me. Since then, I've been through more Reissues than I care to admit and they've almost all (minus a VOS Special) been on roughly that same level.

    Anyway... craze, shmaze. I just like them better. YMMV
     
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    Exactly. :cheers:
     
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    That there is an awesome flame!
    Happy 50!
    You didn't sell that boat anchor did ya?
     
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    The Ice Tea "Boat anchor" went to a new home on Friday Sept 8th! Took a mere 3 days to sell it. The honey burst left for a new home yesterday. I do not miss either in the least. The Pelham blue will stay for now.
     
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    IMG_0322.JPG IMG_0324.JPG IMG_0325.JPG IMG_0326.JPG IMG_0327.JPG IMG_0330.JPG Hi All,
    New member here . I've been reading the forum for a month or so, gleaming all the info I could about buying a CC .
    Thought I would just tag onto the end of this thread with some pics , if thats ok :) . She's a CC39 Minnesota burst . Wish I could play her well enough to justify having her , time for lessons after 40 odd years I think :)
    Stewart .
     
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    Welcome aboard!
     
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    Welcome @mad-dot! And welcome to the CC club! Great guitars and that one is a beauty! And congrats @Geronimo on the sales. You did the right thing! :cheers:
     
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    I made somebody very happy I'm sure.
    They got nice guitars at a nice price. With all or most of the "tweaks" done. I have the funds to hunt down another Reissue! Win win win. Maybe a '57.
     
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