Help me make sense of this 1971 Deluxe I just picked up.

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  1. 27sauce

    27sauce Senior Member

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    I've been scratching my head over this thing for the last 3 weeks.

    The known issues:

    Grovers
    pickups are from '79
    goof ring is wrong
    refret
    changed caps
    changes strap button screws(by me)

    How does the finish look to you guys? It looks and feels right to me, but something tells me its just too clean. The binding seems a little round on the edges. The back/neck/headstock don't show any sign of refinishing but they're spotless. The gold is right, as far as I can tell, and theres a pick guard shadow. Is this just how the binding was in the early 70's? how to the pickup cavities look? I'm looking for 100% refin clues, but I'm not seeing them. Also, theres a strap button plug thats under the finish?!
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  4. Who

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    It's definitely been refinished. The pickup cavities (and hardware) would not have been sprayed like that at the factory.

    Especially the bridge, which was aftermarket routed, then sprayed.


    It's a great looking guitar, though. I really like it. A lot.
     
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    refinish....nothing wrong with the goof hider from what I see?

    how did you come up with 71? what is the serial number, I can not make it out?

    ** who beat me to it while I was typing.....
     
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    Its 928784 I bought it as a '71, I'm not 100% certain.

    The goof ring is affixed with screws. Weren't they rivets?
    Also, only one goof ring? The route is still too small for a fullsize humbucker. I wonder what went on there?
     
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    Front and back refin?
     
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  8. Who

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    I don't know that you'd call what you have a "goof ring". Goof rings covered up factory mistakes.
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    Your guitar was routed at the factory for two mini-humbuckers. Someone later decided to route the bridge for full-size HB.

    LATER, someone decided to go back to mini-HB. But now they needed an "adpter ring" (not "goof) that screws into full-size HB pickup-rings.

    The neck pickup routing remains unmolested.


    The whole guitar was refinished. Quite a while ago, from the looks of the yellowing.
     
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    Interesting. The bridge route won't fit a full-size humbucker or ring. I tried. Probably something else.

    The route is too small for a humbucker, and the holes are too far apart for the ring. When I bought it, I assumed it had a full size in it at one time, so that was the plan. No dice.
     
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    P-90?
     
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    Isn't a mini humbucker ring the made from a p-90 cover?
    Yes, a p-90 will fit.
     
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    The story was it hadn't seen the light of day since the mid 90's. Fresh refret, doesn't look like they even got played.
     
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    Whatever its finishing history, it sure looks great.
     
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    Expectations vs reality.

    On it's own, it's a damn nice guitar.
    Refin probably, scars here and there but nonetheless nice guitar.

    I would like a guitar like that, no problem.
    If you want to see it as a collector's item, nope.
    If you bought it for what it is, yep.


    Feel and tone all right?
    :D
     
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    I had a feeling about the top I just needed other eyes/brains to tell me. But the back was/is really throwing me off.

    The edges are just so crisp, especially the headstock. The color/filler looks right.

    I paid refin/changed parts money, and it plays/sounds great, so I'm happy.

    I can fuck with it without a conscience. ;)

    It weighs a ton, and the neck is massive. I do really like the sound, but I'm tempted to go p-90 with it.
     
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    Goldtop with P-90's...

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    Black top with P90s would look fantastic.
     
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    Surprised the neck is massive. The neck on my ‘72 Deluxe is really thin. They were hand finished of course, so there are a lot of variances. But it’s not like Norlin era Gibson’s were known for thick necks.
     
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    Yeah, it's weird. I had a '72 Custom for a while and it was thin. This one feels like an R7. 1 inch dead on at the first fret, and what I notice most, 1.2" at the 12th.
     
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    I’d be really happy about that! And even happier that it’s already been refretted. The low flat frets Gibson used back then wore down quickly. HNGD!
     
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