Help Me Evaluate 1985 Les Paul Please

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  1. realjimjim

    realjimjim Senior Member

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    This guitar was offered to me for $1395.00 and was stated it was a 1985.

    It was described as a "players guitar" which doesn't really bother me. I was hoping to get any additional information, opinions, thoughts and/or ideas that anyone may care to make.

    Can anyone tell me which model Les Paul this is?

    I found this info:
    The Guitar Dater Project - Gibson Serial Number Decoder
    The serial number is 8255xxxx:
    Your guitar was made at the
    Nashville Plant, TN, USA
    September 12nd, 1985
    Production Number: 24

    Thanks for any help!
     

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    Jayman Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure this is Gibson's first production of a Les Paul Studio, if I recall the model name is a Les Paul Studio Standard, or Standard Studio. The picups dont look original, but other than that it looks to be in good shape, price is a little high but not that far out of the range it outta be.

    Hope I could help, Jay.
     
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    realjimjim Senior Member

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    Thanks Jay! Here's a few more pics and the guy sent me the following info:

    "I've attached some pics of the guitar. This guitar, serial number
    8255xxxx, definitely has a lot of playwear. It plays great, has a very
    low action (possibly too low for someone with a heavy hand). It's
    missing the pickguard as well as most of the backplate screws. There is
    very little fretwear, as it probably had a fret dress fairly recently.
    No major dings, but plenty of minor dings. The pickups, of course, are
    not original. I waxed the body twice but the finish is still a bit
    cloudy. Overall, I would describe it as a player's guitar. It's solid
    and plays well but not at all mint. Hope this helps."
     

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    Jayman Senior Member

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    Looks like a good one, most that have wear on them are. I'd check it out in person if you are able to and if it plays and sounds right go for it!

    I think these were the second edition of the studio to come out, because the first were called "Studio Customs" and had three-ply binding. I think they originally had Tim Shaw pickups, but I'm not certain. Really the only difference that I recall in these and a LP Standard is the inlays, and three piece top...
     
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    realjimjim Senior Member

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    I have a trusted long time guitar buddy who lives very close to seller . . he'll check it out for me if i decide to go further.

    What is with the three piece top you spoke of?
     
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    Jayman Senior Member

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    If you look very closely you will see the that the top is made out of three pieces of maple. It doesn't affect anything at all. Some older Les Paul's such as Les Paul deluxes I've seen 3 or 4, even saw a 7 piece top. Only thing is that the original 1958 models had two piece tops, which is more preferable due to looks.
     
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    KS 5150 Senior Member

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    To me, it does look like a Studio Standard...I have an '83, one of the first made, and its a great guitar. The price sounds pretty good but you may try to get him down a little bit, if possible...other than the dot inlays and silkscreen logo, it has all the appointments of a regular Standard, IIRC.
     
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    Studio Standard.
    With original Shaw pickups, maybe the price is OK, kinda borderline.
    I'm gassing myself for one of these or it's brother, the Studio Custom in original condition, mainly with Shaw pickups.
     
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    realjimjim Senior Member

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    I went ahead and bought this 1985 Studio . . . it plays great!

    There are some screws/hardware/etc are missing and/or not original, for
    instance the pickguard and mounting screws as you can see from the pics.

    Also the pickup ring screws are all mismatched.

    Where can I find good reproduction items that would be correct for this guitar?

    Were the 1985 Studios sold with single ply pickguards?

    And the Truss Rod covers, did they have "Studio" on them?
     
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    Which items are u looking 4 ?
     
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    Creme colored Pickguard with mounting screws and bracket

    Screws for both rear plates

    Screws for Pickup rings
     
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    Slash&LesPaul Fan Senior Member

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    realjimjim Senior Member

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    Was just going to email you . . .

    which creme pickguard is for the studio with full size humbuckers?
     
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    The only things that jumps out at me, are the pickup rings, pokerchip, and toggle switch washer. They're alot more light yellowish, compared to the binding and the zebra installed. The rings and the pokerchip look like the ones found on imports, and look nothing like the cream colored plastics on any of my 80's Les Pauls. They could just be aftermarket (WD or AllParts), no big deal. I would also check under the backplates, and get a good look at the electronics. Especially that toggle switch. The washer looks like it might have been changed, which again may be no big deal, as long as it's a good switch like a Switchcraft. What you don't want to find is one of those box shaped toggle switches or mini-pots. Other than that, it looks like a fine Studio Standard from that era. Good luck with the sale :thumb:
     
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    nice looking guitar!
     
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    The guitar is a studio standard. I have an '86. I don't know that I've ever seen original Shaw zebra pickups. I know the pickups were originally covered, so there is some doubt the pickups are original. That being said, the price is a bit high. I bought mine for $900 and the going rate for studio standards (all original) is $900-$1200.

    I would check the pickups and negotiate the price.
     
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    realjimjim Senior Member

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    The deal is done . . . the owner said he sold the original Shaw's years ago.

    I don't know who made the neck Zebra pup, or the Bridge pup either. The neck reads 10K and the bridge reads 9.45K. I'm going to replace them this weekend.
     
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    Damn, no Shaws?
    Hope you didn't pay the full asking price.
    She is beautiful nevertheless.:thumb:
     

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