Guitarists you don't, "get."

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  1. cmcoram

    cmcoram Senior Member

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    I can't get into FF either. Grohl may be the coolest guy in the world, but I just don't like the band.

    Funny you mention Taylor, because I can't figure out Mick Thompson. Dig Jim Root, but Mick is just strange.
     
  2. Toris93

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    Roy buchanan! is my number 1...I JUST DONT GET IT!!!

    also all new metal players. i can listen to stuff like old ozzy and iron maiden, but the new stuff...WTF!?

    i love beano but i agree, eric is kinda overrated, did inspire A LOT of people tho=)

    also on Beck, i love his stuff. I can understand that not everybody gets his fusion stuff but have you guys heard the Truth album? one of the best british blues albums in my opinion its a more straight ahead blues rock. ( and he plays a LP =) )
     
  3. John the Revelator

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    I like any good musician that moves me, regardless of instruments and genre... But, I have a few (guitarists) that qualifies for my list:

    * Steve Vai
    * Kirk Hammet (good song writer though)
    * Joe Satriani
    * Santana (the newer stuff)
    * Growl-music-metal (don't know what it's called)
    * Kerry King

    et al
     
  4. moodyedge

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    he's got the scariest mask though
     
  5. kevin134

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    Slash, Zakk... you can keep them.. I'm not the biggest Clapton fan, but have seen him live and its worth it. Beck and Page? love them...
     
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    Mark Knopfler
    Tom Morello
    Eric Clapton
    Vinnie Vincent

    No-one seems to understand them. xD
     
  7. tao_of_drew

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    Experimenting is what you do at home by yourself on a tape recorder, not on your album that you release for public consumption.
    Experimenting is all well and good, but your released material should be polished into the way you want it to be heard, not just pure dicking around.
    Still, I'd like to think Hendrix was at least with it enough to not base his playing on "What happens when I do this?"
     
  8. Xtazy

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    It seems like all the guitar gods that are now referred to as pioneers and are considered legends by so many people, are actually not so great...how could you not get this kind of players and what is it that you don't get? And if no one gets them, how come they are so popular?!
     
  9. moodyedge

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    Tom Morello is a modern day hendrix to me
     
  10. jimification

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    I didn't get Beck for years either. Then I saw him play this on Jools Holland...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yGB6d_3n58[/ame]
     
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  11. cmcoram

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    Beck's been playing guitar for 50+ years, yet when I hear him, he sounds like I did when I first put the trem bar in the Strat!


    Yeah, Mick Thompson's mask is scary. He looks like KISS and Alice Cooper had a baby!
     
  12. TKOjams

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    Neil's voice sounds like cats f*cking on a summer's night.
     
  13. moodyedge

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    i remember watchin that wen he was on there in 99 i think it was.....blew me away...still watch it now....


    he is a one off
     
  14. Goldtop75

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    I get Clapton, Page, Slash, Beck, Knopfler (LOVE his stuff), and most of all the rest mentioned here that people don't seem to get. Jimi Hendrix is one I don't get as a lead guitarist, but I do get him as a songwriter and composer, and as a rhythm guitarist. his rhythm work is phenomenal!

    The ONE guy I don't get that's prominently featured in this forum is Ace. I really don't.

    I listen to the KISS songs, and they're great, because the band is great. As a band there's magic there. He, on the other hand, doesn't seem to stand out as spectacular... Just... pretty ok. I cannot seem to picture him being anything but ordinary if he hadn't been in the group. Can someone shed some light on why some think he's really that exceptional as a guitarist?
     
  15. Boleskinehouse

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    I think it's mostly about attitude and his ability to fit a solo to a song. I love his phrasing and he has a killer vibrato. That being said, he is by no means a great technical player and not even the best of the other non-technical players, but he made millions of us pick up a guitar in the first place. Myself included.

    I guess I've just gotten used to being laughed at about it or something... I said years ago that I just don't care anymore. I'm proud to call him an influence, although he's not my favorite guitar player by any means.

    And he freaking looked cool. :laugh2::laugh2:
     
  16. Goldtop75

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    THAT makes him a good player. honestly, that's my point. The songs sounded perfect when he was playing in the band. There was nothing too much or too little. I think he just fit the band so well that the songs shined. In that sense, he's almost like the Edge.

    The Edge is scary in the way he texturises a song. The testimonial to his playing is that everything he does in a song is exactly just right for that song, and that there's no one else that sounds like him.

    I'm not saying Ace was crap or any worse than the next kid on the block (shit... he's better than me anyways). Just that many idolise him here and I was wondering why.

    It's like Slash is being idolised as well. I grew up with Slashtone. I dig his playing. But in the bigger picture, he's not God. His phrasing and tone make him one of the easiest guitarists to listen to, but he's not the greatest thing since sliced bread. I learnt whatever I could from him, and moved on.

    To me a REALLY good guitarist is someone like Joe Satriani. Skip his weird compositions a bit and go right down to the simple rock stuff. Check out a song called "Revelations" and hear how he makes that tone work for him. Its a really simple song, but trying to play it the way he does with the same amount of feel will kill you. And he doesn't sonically saturate your eardrums. He leaves enough space in the songs for you to breathe, unlike many other solo guitarists, who just want to show off. Satriani plays the right things at the right time, to express the right feelings, and he does it very well.

    Vai, on the other hand, is on another plane. But I dig him too.:thumb:

    That's the thing... He was cool at that point. That he made people pick up the guitar makes him cool in my books. I think that if you've left your mark on someone, and changed his life and playing, that qualifies you as a great guitarist, not matter how simple.:thumb:

    Look at Michael Angelo Batio. I cannot for the life of me wrap my head round his playing. It's not even technically brilliant in composition! It's pure drivel! It's playing that fast and clean thats a bit impressive. However, he spurred another up and coming guitarist I do admire to newer heights: Mark Tremonti. For that, I am thankful for his existence. (but you couldn't pay me to listen to MAB's recording in one sitting. I'd rather kill myself!)

    But there's one guitarist I really have to take my hat off to. Carlos Santana. Serious.

    I never dug his playing in the past. Even today, I listen to him leisurely. The reason I caught on to his playing is because I tried playing one of his songs. I took a backing track of "Europa" and tried to record my own version. That was extremely frustrating. Not because it was difficult to play, but because it was difficult to IMPROVISE.

    Try this: Play his main melody, but then do the rest differently from him. See how quickly you run out of ideas. This guy, manages to solo differently with meaning over a passage with NO chord changes except for 2 chords, for the next 3 minutes. And he does it without sounding boring, on ONE TAKE.

    That's a skill I've yet to hone man... That's what you'd call a natural ear!
     
  17. Boss 302

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    Well said.
     
  18. moodyedge

    moodyedge Senior Member

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    opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and none matter more than the next.

    that said,

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65iSpG1DgQ]YouTube - bill bailey[/ame]
     
  19. Shred Astaire

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    I thought it was:

    opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all smell like shit!
     
  20. lukemacauley

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    I think Clapton's vibrato is awesome. He's not bending, it's like he's just running his finger along the string on that fret. Now that's minimalism for you, none of this semitone bend vibrato shite.

    Hendrix, had the ability to play rhythm and solo at the same time, there was no need for another guitar player. The guitar belonged to the man, it was an extension of himself.
     

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