Guitarists you don't, "get."

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  1. DesertBurst

    DesertBurst Senior Member

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    sloppy=soulful ? I think not....

    well guitarist I don't get..
    Jimmy Page...
    I don't think he sucks, I just don't 'get' him.
     
  2. kip0909

    kip0909 Senior Member

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    I don't understand anyone not connecting with page. I get slash, i get angus, i get clapton, and i get wylde.

    But why page?
    Has anyone seen him play live? or atleast videos of it?

    He always changed his songs up. Sure, he was sloppy sometimes, but it doesn't matter. Songs like STH are a tad boring after the 5000th time, but still a good song.
     
  3. Ride on a Pony

    Ride on a Pony Senior Member

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    He just doesn't do much at all for me, and most of the time I find his tone to be absolutely horrible. For example, at RAH (I can't remember which song) the slide part he plays makes my hair stand up it sounds so bad.

    I like a few Zep songs, but by and large, they don't do anything for me, I just find him boring... And the fact that with Page there's usually Plant doesnt help either (Maybe that's why I like White Summer / Black mountain side best out of his catalogue).

    To put it less succinctly, I think Page is usually boring and sounds like shit. :laugh2:

    EDIT: That's not to say he isn't one of my key reasons for loving Les Pauls'. :D
     
  4. GibsonByBirth

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    Frank Zappa
    Jerry Garcia
     
  5. R8R6Ben

    R8R6Ben Senior Member

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    I dont get Beck, any shredders, and just don't see why everyone thinks Slash is so great.... I liked GNR when I was a kid and still like some of their songs but his playing never really moved me.
     
  6. Harpozep

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    "Beck", or "Jeff Beck"? Gotta bee specific these days........:)
     
  7. tao_of_drew

    tao_of_drew Senior Member

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    I could never get into Stevie Ray Vaughn. I remember reading guitar player magazines in the early 90's and the young guitarists writing in asking how to get the SRV tone, and I was thinking, "WHY?"
    Hendrix is very hit or miss for me. Some of his early stuff is pretty good, but his later stuff is almost unlistenable to me. I like songs like "Spanish Castle Magic", but his Star Spangled Banner I absolutely never got why people think it's so monumental.
    Clapton is another one. Love his stuff with the Yardbirds & Bluesbreakers, Cream is mostly good, but any of his solo stuff is just junk as far I'm concerned.
     
  8. Xtazy

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    Me neither.
     
  9. huw

    huw V.I.P. Member

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    Well this is an opinion thread, pure & simple isn't it, so I'm not going to name names. My opinion is fine for me, yours will do for you.

    One general thing I'll say, though is that I don't think it's fair to call anyone's playing "emotionless". You have no idea whatsoever of the emotions a player is feeling when they play something. All we can legitimately say is whether their playing moves us or not, as listeners.

    So whether it's Metheny, Page, Slash, Cobain or White - give them the benefit of the doubt. They all put their emotions into their playing in their own way. You can only say if it moves you or not IMHO.

    YMMV as usual...
     
  10. slither

    slither Senior Member

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    Hendrix's Star Spangled Banner is more of a statement than just a rendition of the US national anthem and really makes alot more sense in the context of the time it was played. This was the late 60's, there was a growing discontent of American involvement in the Vietnam war, protests were gathering forces and Hendrix's interpretation of the Star Spangled Banner, with all the wammy tricks and dive bombing, replicated the sounds of war as well as being fairly new ground in guitar playing at the time. All of this may have been lost with the passage of time and a younger listening audience may not appreciate the social climate which existed at the time this was made.

    Of course there is a musical precendce of this with Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, which intermingles passages of the French national anthem, La Marseillaise, with cannon fire in the climax of the piece, symbolising the Russiam army's victory over Napoleon's French army.
     
  11. tao_of_drew

    tao_of_drew Senior Member

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    Slither, I do totally get what you're saying about Hendrix's National Anthem.
    I guess what ruins it for me is the fact that almost all of Hendrix's later work was filled with dive bombing and whammy tricks, so it's hard for me to look at his version of the National Anthem as anything other than ordinary for him.
    I'll admit I didn't live through the '60's and so maybe I'm jaded as to the sentiment of the times.
    I don't get it, but that doesn't mean I'm bagging on anyone who does. It's just not my cup of tea.
    I just feel like especially later in life, Hendrix relied way to much on "gimmicks" as I heard Pete Townshend refer to it once. More whammy bar dropping, wah wah work out, univibe phasing stuff than actual playing.
    Don't get me wrong, 1) this is all opinion, and 2) I do like Hendrix; his first 2 albums in particular are fantastic.
    I will say something postive about Hendrix and that is he had a great/unique tone. I saw a vid of him playing an SG and he literally got the same exact tone he always gets from a Strat. Pretty impressive and proof that so much of the tone is in the hands of the player.
     
  12. weirdotis

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    Hendrix. He's good, but not that good. Duane was phenomenal but Dickie is just as good.

    And pretty much any metal guitarist that has ever lived.
     
  13. slither

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    No worries tao , it's cool. I don't listen to Hendrix anywhere as much as I used to. I was born in 62, a bit too young to be aware of Vietnam when it was happening, but old enough to be aware of it immediately afterwards.

    I guess it's just me getting older, but I don't worry anymore about stuff I don't get, I just move on and enjoy enjoy what I do get. When I was younger I used to rant and rave about things I thought was crap, but now I just shrug my shoulders and say it doesn't really matter in the great scheme of things. Priorities and what matters changes as you get older. Maybe it's the 7 ages of Man thing I'm experiencing.

    I agree with you the tone thing, it's so much in the players hands. And all opinions are valid and I would never flame anyone for just expressing an honest opinion, especially on such a subjective topic as this. Cheers, man, peace..... Peter. :thumb:
     
  14. meursault

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    glad to see i'm not alone... :cool:
     
  15. moodyedge

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    Eric Clapton for me, I dont get it

    Maybe slash a little also
     
  16. BUDOKAI

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    I like most of the "famous" artists, I never understood why everyone likes the foo fighters in particular, also there a lot of under rated bands that a lot of people don't feel.
     
  17. BUDOKAI

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    You're weird.How can you not like Hendrix or metal?!
     
  18. BUDOKAI

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    I think it was more like experimentation than gimmicks.
     
  19. cmcoram

    cmcoram Senior Member

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    Ok, I'll bite:

    Hendrix
    Beck after Blow by Blow
    Clapton as a solo artist
    Page
    Any Hair Band guitarist
    Vai as a solo artist
    EVH after 1984
    Buckethead
    Malmsteen
    Zakk with BLS (not bad with Ozzy)
    Randy Rhoads


    Now, lots of players that I do like are/were inspired by some of the above, but for me, going directly to the source just doesn't work.
     
  20. moodyedge

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    yes! good one, the foo fighters....man...............they are the biggest "i dont get it" on my list and i totally forgot about them until i read your post.

    I dont rate his voice, he is poor on guitar and he will never be kurt cobain.

    It is the kind of "Making a racket" rock music I cant stand. I think people "think" they are kool if they like the foo fighters, when I say i dont you get looked at like you have two heads. They are generic. I dont like what is regarded as kool or good guide what I listen too.

    Oh MUSE too?? what the...?? no

    As Corey Taylor said "Dig what you dig man, dig what you dig".

    Having said that 'my hero' and 'best of you' are good songs.
     

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