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  1. Hatefulsob

    Hatefulsob Senior Member

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    Guitarist seem more often than not to be unable to listen to an amplifier and determine if it sounds good to them. They seem to only be able to tell if it sounds familiar to them, as in Marshall or Fender. They aren't listening to what they are hearing, they're listening for what they "expect" to hear, what they've heard growing up. How many user reviews have you read where the author states in some form " cuts through the mix well, plenty of gain and responsive tone stack, but it doesn't sound like a Marshall"? I've heard people laugh at the fact that most of the amp builders in say VGM are mainly copies of fender designs but if someone dares put up their new desigh, no one is interested if it isn't a "classic" amp that they are very familiar with.
    Discuss at will your thoughts and observations.
     
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  2. ErictheRed

    ErictheRed Senior Member

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    I couldn't agr
     
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    I disagree and here's wh
     
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  4. Kashmir

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    It depends on the guitarist. They seem t
     
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    DavGrape Silver Supporter

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    I like one tone knob. The treble or whatever thingy, not the
     
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    VictorB Formerly LZF Super Mod

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    dammit i hate cliff ha
     
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    Can't finish posts eith
     
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    Kashmir Senior Member

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    Some guitarists are unable to finish a statement, never mind being able to determine what sounds good or not.
     
  11. Hatefulsob

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    Sorry, using a borrowed ipad not my computer to post. Please forgive my typo and suck a beer fart if it truly bothers you.
     
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    Love beer farts.
     
  13. Marshall & Moonshine

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    I’m actually the opp
     
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    Hatefulsob Senior Member

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    I find them tough in the shower as you can't just walk away from it.
     
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    DarrellV Derl Ver.... ERMAHGERD! I'm a sercarstic BOT! Silver Supporter Premium Member

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    I find the ones that turn the water brown particularly nasty.:eek2:
     
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    Now this is MLP, my f
     
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    I'd just like to point out that my sig line that I've had for years was way ahead of it's time. I can probably change it now that it has fulfilled it's destiny. :laugh2:
     
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    Your sig was the first thing I thought of!!
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    I've come to realize that most people don't really hear what they hear... they hear what they expect. I read something years ago about a group that did a test when Monster cables were the new, hot item. They set up a stereo with a switch box. Switched one way, the music would play through standard audio cables. Switched the other way, the music would play through the Monster cables. The switching was all very visible, so it was easy to tell which cables the music was playing through at any time. However, there was a hidden secret. The switch box was a dummy. It didn't actually switch anything. The music played through the same cables all the time. The fascinating thing was people's reactions to how much better the sound quality was when the switch box was set to the Monster cable side. "It's so much richer/clearer!" "There's so much more depth!" "The highs are higher, the lows are lower and the mids just cut through and ring so much better!"

    Not even kidding, people were amazed at how much better the music sounded when they "thought" they were hearing it through Monster cables. Confirmation bias, I suppose. I know I'll start some $h!t here, but I'm pretty sure the classic "bumble bee caps" are responsible for a similar phenomenon. I've been an elec tech too long to buy into the idea that a couple of capacitors make enough difference in sound for the human ear to hear. I believe whole-heartedly that people "believe" they hear a difference, but... eh. I think that's why we're do torn on amps, too. There are a lot of decent (dare I say "good"?) sounding amps out there, but if they don't sound like what your mind believes they should sound like, or if they have a name on the front you're not completely comfortable with... they'll never sound as good as you want them too. Perhaps if we painted "Monster" on the front... :p
     
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    Other than Marshall and Fender are there any other types of amps? I don't see the problem.

    My brain and my ears aren't always in sync. I will listen to a song, many times, and then (without the song playing) will start to noodle on the guitar and suss it out. I will think that I have a part nailed and I will play it along with the recording and nope, way off. I've have to unteach myself and stop playing it incorrectly...except for a few where my version is better.
     

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