Guitar Cable - Make it yourself - What is needed?

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  1. gregggyf

    gregggyf Senior Member

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    Good Evening,

    I was patrolling other musical forum sites and on one of the topics was guitar cables. It was mentioned of how a great amount of the cost of expensive cables seemingly is the labor to attach the connections to the cable.

    It was insinuated that the expensive cable manufacturers primarily get their coaxial cables from the same places and add attach connections to it.

    I was wondering if anyone has an idea/recipe to make a very good
    "whatever that means" guitar cable.

    From what I learned, irregardless of what the cable you use,... use a Neutrik connector.

    It would seem that a small part of the dilema is getting coaxial cable in amounts of 10-20 feet lengths.

    Would anyone know where quality cable could be purchase in small amounts?

    Thank you very much for your time and responses.

    Greg
     
  2. NoStatic

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    This is the way to go. The big Nuetrik jacks are great, they have a fabulous cable clamping mechanism- they just dont break. They are generally too big for pedal boards, Lava is a good solution for boards. Amphenols are also good, smaller, but IMO arent as robust and bullet proof as Neutriks.

    Basic soldering skills required, as always, practice makes perfect. A wire stripper or a blade, solder, soldering iron is all thats required. Mogami cable can be bought by the metre, it makes sense, you get great cable in the lengths you want. Canare is also good stuff.
     
  3. gregggyf

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    Thank you very much NoStatic.
     
  4. LtKojak

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    Klotz cable, bought by the meter (or foot), Neutrik plugs.

    That's as good as it ever's going to get.

    HTH,
     
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    Where's a good place/good price to buy length of guitar cable, Canare or Mogami?
     
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    i got mine from redco.
     
  7. gregggyf

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    Hello Blamo - I looked at Redco and it seems to be the place to purchase good wire such as Canare and Mogami at seemingly very decent prices I might add. I did however send them an email just to confirm that the Canare cable sold is the GS-6 model. And for Mogami to confirm that they sold the 2524 model.

    I came across a website called Stompin-Ground.com and they seem to build instrument cables with top name cable with Neutrik plugs at prices that seem very reasonable.

    What I am planning to do is to purchase the cable from Redco (hopefully that I do not get stomped with S&H charges...LOL) and purchase the Neutrik plugs of Ebay.

    Thank you again everyone for your input.

    Greg
     
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    Hello,

    If anyone can suggest other places where cable can be purchased affordably please do mention them.

    Thank you.

    Greg
     
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    What country are you in?
     
  10. gregggyf

    gregggyf Senior Member

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    Hello NoStatic,

    I live in the United States, New York state to be more exact. :)
     
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    egoogle mogami 2524 - disregard their new gold silver platinum bollocks.
     
  12. gregggyf

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    Hello NoStatic,

    So Mogami 2524 is the way to go?... if this is the case,...
    all prices being equal would you prefer:

    Mogami 2524 or
    Canare GS-6

    Thank you again.
     
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    Greg, I use in my setup cables made from both Canare GS6 and Mogami 2524 with the big Neutriks. Frankly, i dont hear the sonic differences some do between good cables- but I sure can hear bad ones - I personally care more about durabilty and reliability. I am happy to use either of those, both are robust, quiet and durable.
     
  14. gregggyf

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    Thank you very much NoStatic for sharing your experiences. Your responses will be quite helpful to me.

    An update - *** I made a mistake in one of my previous posts, I did not send an email to Redco, I sent an email to stompin-ground.com
    The reply I received from stompin-ground.com regarding what model of Mogami and Canare cable they supply when matching with Neutrik connectors to make finnished instrument cable and the response is what I was hoping to see. For Mogami they provide the 2524 type and for
    Canare, they provide the GS-6 type.

    One less problem to deal with.

    Have good luck everyone.

    Greg
     
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    I purchased Mogami 2524 from Redco and also, as an experiment, Mogami 2497 high-end cable. The 2497 is pretty thick cable and is really meant more for audio than guitar applications because it's a bit stiff, but the capacitance is much lower.

    I couldn't have been happier with Redco -- the price was reasonable and cables were literally shipped a day or two later. When I called them questioning whether I should use the 2497, they were more than happy to take back the cable even though it had already been cut.

    For connectors, I went with G&H based upon their "solid copper" core based on advice in this thread (http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/tonefreaks/117214-list-good-1-4-plugs-cable-home-cable-builders.html). I don't really know whether the G&H copper core makes a difference, but it sold me over Neutrik. I originally ordered the G&H connectors from a place Have Inc, which I DO NOT RECOMMEND, Have Inc took the order and then 6 weeks later said they couldn't fill it. I then ordered G&H from Parts Express and they were here in 2 days (also highly recommend Parts Express).

    I did end up building a cable with the 2497 -- it's pretty much overkill -- sounds great but I don't hear a significant difference to the 2524 and it's stiffer. It's also pretty difficult to solder the 2497 to fit in connectors because of the size of the cable and internal wires. Use of G&H Bigfoots helped on one end, but I used and angle G&H connector on the other and it was very tight. With the angled connector on the guitar end, the thick cable works fine on an LP when routed through the strap, but still the 2497 is overkill in my opinion.
     
  16. Hamtone

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    I can speak for Mogami excellent stuff and neutriks for guitar cable. Buy it from redco they ship from Conn. and their prices are fair.

    For a pedal board I would suggest amphenol with evidence audio monorail.
     

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