Grolsch Type Strap Locks - Be Careful

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  1. jcsk8

    jcsk8 Senior Member

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    I was trowing some riffs around wirh my LP and just saw those miserably faling. I was really sorry that my guitar didn´t performerd a neck dive.

    Just saw this while playing:
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    At first tought I´ve installed it wrong. But not. It just pops if you´re moving the guitar a bit.



    I´m going back to the plastic dunlop type and considering a metal lock.

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  2. VictorB

    VictorB Formerly LZF Super Mod

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    Schallers for the win.
     
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  3. T00DEEPBLUE

    T00DEEPBLUE Senior Member

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    Get some proper straplocks like Jim Dunlops (the ball bearing ones) or Schallers.
     
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  4. roses

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    Looks like the whole in the middle of them is too big. Ive used the ones from actual grolsch bottles for years and never had a problem. they are tighter fitting than the ones in this video. Fender probably make them wider as the strap pins on strats and teles are usually thicker than on les pauls.
     
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  5. Who

    Who I'm back. Back in the New York groove.

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    I think the actual beer-bottle gaskets would fair better than the Fender one.

    That Fender one actually pisses me off. This tool has "
    ONE JOB. Keep the strap on.

    So they take a design that actually works, make it out of a flimsy-er material, and then emboss their friggin' name on it!

    That's right, by adding their marketing, they weaken the design. The overall "washer" is much more flexible with that design-cut, than it would be if it were a solid piece.

    Design flaws like that disgust me.
     
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  6. Who

    Who I'm back. Back in the New York groove.

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    Then again... if I'm going to be pissed off at design flaws.... let's throw some disparaging remarks at the strip buttons that come on many electric guitars. Gibson is a prime offender.

    Gibson (you suck):
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    Ibanez, better:
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    Gretsch, now we're talking:

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    You aren't doing a fast strap-change, but the hole in the strap doesn't fit over the button, you need to unscrew the knob.
     
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  7. WezV

    WezV Senior Member

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    working for a brewery and doing a lot of homebrew means i am never short of these. the fender version is ridiculous
     
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  8. jcsk8

    jcsk8 Senior Member

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    That´s possible. I´ll see if i can foud a real one and compare. Just bought these becasue they are easilly avaiable and tought they would work the same, wich they don´t.
     
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  9. CCK

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    I have had one of the genuine Grolsch washers pop off, but it was on a strap that was VERY worn out at the attachment point, and the strap was sorta' looped wrong, like a J, instead of straight, like it should be. Nevertheless, that strap has been retired, replaced with one of the wonderful Italia straps when they were on sale 2 for 1. Still use the Grolsch washers.
     
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  10. Pappy58

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    Been using them for 30years and never had a problem...now they do have a life cycle. I buy a bag of 100 and discard a pair after a couple months once they get stretched to a point...but it's a personal thing...personally I hate metal strap locks... :run:
     
  11. northernguitarguy

    northernguitarguy SWeAT hOg

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    Real Grolsch washers have worked for me for eight years, I feel completely confident with them. Combined with a good thick leather strap, it's actually a PITA to get them off.
     
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    Petergrifindor Senior Member

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    Those are not Grolsch.

    The real ones do the job as good as it gets.
     
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    This. I've used the real washers for ten years and never once had one let a strap go.

    I still have a few empties from when I drank, for new guitars as they come in. They're also great for storing homemade salad dressing.
     
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  14. CCK

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    I've actually had the plastic Dunlop types fail too. That disc that rotates to lock them in place just popped out of the bigger piece. No catastrophic consequences though, I just looked down, and there was part of my strap lock on the floor.
     
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    northernguitarguy SWeAT hOg

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    I just went through giving the Northern a full cleaning and was cursing how hard it was to get the strap off. Perhaps, it might not work with a vinyl strap end or other thin material. But dang, with leather, mine are basically locked on.
     
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    Thumpalumpacus Senior Member

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    Yeah ... with the wide-headed pins on my Ibanez, the guitar ain't going anywhere. :thumbs:
     
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    I use PRS pins on my Les Pauls, they are really wide and are very reliable.
     
  18. bungle

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    That's not a Grolsch. It says Fender on it. Ya need to beer up to get the real deal.:) Those Dunlop ones work pretty good but you need to check that they're secured periodically.
     
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    Grolsch must use a thicker and less elastic ring.
     
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    I have been using the actual grolsch washers from the beer for years also, never had a hint of a problem. They are very tough, and hard to get on and off of my LP and strat. Which is good, because it means they are doing their job well. Haven't heard hardly any bad things said about them, but now this makes several times that I have heard people not like the Fender versions though.
     

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