Gibson water slide serial numbers....1975,1976,1977

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  1. brentrocks

    brentrocks Guitar Hack Premium Member

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    Is there a way to know on these guitars wether it's a Nashville or kalamazoo?
     
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    I'm not the expert on this one. The Norlin guys will let you know. From my understanding the numbers mean very little, it's the build/design characteristics. I had a Norlin basket case that caused a lot of debate both on year, and location of manufacture over in the Norlin area.

    I will say (I'm not up on my Norlin stuff like I used to be), I *think* by the time they were using the decals they were all being produced in Nashville.

    @HardCore Troubadour @Kris Ford these guys will sort you out.
     
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    Also (same disclaimer as above), I don't *think* 1975 used decals for SN.
     
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    Kris Ford Senior Member

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    That's a good question..it seems BOTH Kzoo and Nashville used them.

    Mid 75 on used an oval decal, with a 99 prefix..00 of '76 and 06 for '77.
     
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    brentrocks Guitar Hack Premium Member

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    The guitar in question is a 76 Marauder Custom
     
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    There is a school of thought that the cheaper end moved to Nashville and the more expensive ones stayed at Kalamazoo.
    Certainly looking at the later impressed ser#'s the Deluxe seems almost exclusively Nashville (although I do own a rare Kalamazoo one from 1980).
     
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    So it's a 50/50 chance it was made in Kzooo?
     
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    yes, 50/50....but I would bet Nashville....no real way to know.

    Both did use decals, but as stated above, most of the lower end stuff was made in TN during those early years.

    sorry Brent, I know that hurts you....lol
     
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    brentrocks Guitar Hack Premium Member

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    Thanks for the input!!!
     
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    Progrocker111 Senior Member

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    No way to find out during this transitional 75-77 era, until they finally switched to classical 8 digit serial number system in mid 77. It would be perhaps a safe bet, that many Customs were still made in Kalamazoo.
     
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    SGs were KZOO, and used the oval FWIW.
     
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    I had forgotten about this....we had a member do some research into ranges of the decals in 76.....not for specific plants but that there were ranges assigned to specific models....may not help but is interesting and he seems to have hit on something that no one else has.

    sadly, I do not remember his screen name and can not find the thread right now, but this is his work, not mine.

     
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    Was reading the thread earlier as I’m trying to get some help on a 76 I’m looking at buying had had some modifications and an odd serial number according to this thread 00 293816
     
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    Well, given that a '00' prefix on a decal is perfectly in line with 76 (as stated in the post right above yours), what was the 'odd' part about it??
     
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    Unless I’m missing something 293816 doesn’t seem to fall in line with any of the explorer serial #s
     

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