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Discussion in 'Historics & Reissues' started by markguitar, Sep 20, 2017.
All good...I barely touch my LP's anymore and the two I have will last me a liftime.
All good here also. I have my Classic, Custom R8 and R9. It's all the Les Pauls I will ever need. Not in the market whether prices go up or down.
Glad I'm squared away with Gibsons. And I rarely touch my two Les Pauls anymore anyway, nice as they are. I'm set for life.
Weird thing is... if you check the boards and eBay, used Les Pauls and Gibsons being offered for sale are a GLUT on the market! And the new/old stock 2015 models that are still unsold are being offered at fire sale prices. Nobody wants them.
Too many Les Pauls for sale new & used, with way too little demand. I guess Gibson figures if they sell any this year, at least they'll get a good pop for each one sold. I think Gibson's balloon is going to pop like a prom night hymen.
I really don't understand Gibson's nowadays. Surely people buy a guitar to play and keep. I don't buy new, I collect Kalamazoo made instruments, some to play, some as long term investments (although they all get played at least a couple of times a year). i know it may upset many but the Far Eastern instruments are so good and so cheap nowadays that buying Gibson makes little sense for all but the bloody wealthy. Would still like a new Heritage H137 though! LOL! These price increases cannot help Gibson's long term prospects. But hey! that's business, what do I know?
That should translate to about 40% in Australia.
sales are down and the increase prices. Gibson is killing itself.
Sad times, but I'm not surprised. Taylors recent large price rise in the UK stopped me buying new (I was days away from buying a 522), so I bought used (good as new).
Guitar popularity seems to be waning again, so as new prices rise, used prices will fall.
Not good for anyone really. Even if you buy used you will see the potential sale value falling as the number of buyers goes down.
Just like the railway system in the UK. Profits falling = increase ticket prices = fewer travellers = falling profits..........etc
Their latest offering won't help - a plain painted PRS style guitar costing $1000 more than a PRS...........
If you're going to spend that kind of money, why not get something really special and buy from one of the boutique builders like Nikita, Veritas, Schroeder, Nystrum, Collings, etc. As far as players go, some of the Asian stuff is tough to beat: Reverend, D'Angelico, Eastman, even Squier Classic Vibe and higher end Epiphone. If you play the guitar instead of the headstock Cort and Samick make some pretty amazing guitars with their own names on the headstocks. Then there is huge value in the used world. A few months back I picked up an Epiphone 1961 Casino Reissue in near mint condition for $175. (Gibby USA P90s come standard.) It is really hard to truly justify buying a new Gibson of the rack when there are so many better options and values out there. My $0.02
I ordered a LP Custom at the end of August, still don't have it as yet, I hope they don't try to weasel me out of more $$
I haven't paid much attention recently but I'm sure I recall people really grumbling about Gibson's quality the last few years and given their reported financial situation it seems they're determined to be their own executioner? Some of my favourite guitars cost next to nothing because they needed some work or weren't desirable but how they feel and sound is far more important than the name on the headstock. I've got any Epiphone LP that plays better than 75% of the off the rack Gibsons I've tried
I never bought new anyway. I like flipping gear too much for that..
Funny how everyone immediately starts in on Gibson. Almost the entire music manufacturing industry is in trouble. Why? Not that many of today's kids care about learning an instrument anymore. Guitar Hero is easier for them! The whole concept of the “rock star” has changed. I don't think the industry saw this coming, or just chose to ignore it. Fender is in serious trouble. As mentioned above, Taylor recently rose prices. It would be better if this was an isolated Gibson problem; unfortunately, it's not.
Well Gibson has already tarnished their brand by putting out Tributes and even cheaper guitars with weird names, if they had stuck to their classic line up, yes we would be paying a lot but who wants something like an “SG SPECIAL 2017-T- HP” for $799 new? They should have stopped their more affordable line simply with the plain old studio. They have made some embarrassing lower price versions of classic models. That are a step above firewood.
Gibson is 540 million dollars in Debt. The bean counters have said it is unserviceable!! Prices must go up!
Gonna stick with my Epi Les Pauls. Bought two this year and their amazing guitars for the money.
I got a 56 re-issue. Blue with P90's and there was a nick on it that happened in a store. Picked it up for less than 400.00 and it's solid and probably the nicest sounding and playing guitar I've ever played.
Does this also apply to Gibson acoustic guitar's?
He wouldn't care the least. He would have stopped caring when he saw the reaction to his signature on the 2015s. And I wouldn't blame him.
This has made me seriously re-think about selling my Bonamassa LP Studio. I just recently purchased a (NOS) PRS 30th Annv. Cust. 22 Vine in aquamarine which of course was pricey. My intent when buying the PRS was to offset this cost from selling my LP Bonamassa. I figured I'll snag another LP later. But now, I think I will just keep it. A LP in the hand now is better than squeezing more money out of rock to buy one later.