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Discussion in 'The Backstage' started by dave294, Sep 4, 2017.
This topic has been going on for a very long time....
So this is one of those "I heard it through the grapevine" situations; it wasn't me on the factory tour. But if you find it ridiculous or improbable that during a tour of the Gibson factory someone spoke to one of their employees for a few minutes.....well i dunno what to tell you.
Maybe the employee was a bit disgruntled and just ranting off that things used to be better...i dont know; wouldnt be surprising. I just found it interesting that i'd heard of the "good wood years" theory, and an employee basically relayed the same thought.
IMO this doesnt really even have to do with the overall quality, craftsmanship or sound of the instruments....Just that they had "different" or "better" wood back in that time.
Ask Me Anything. They're popular on Reddit. Basically a thread in which a celebrity or person in a specific field/job volunteers and people ask all the things they've always wanted to know.
Famous actors, musicians, politicians sometimes do them. But a lot of the times its just regular people...Doctors, pilots, McDonalds employees, guitar center employees, etc.
Interesting to hear little secrets about companies/professions.
I heard the same thing from Andy Aledort, I.E. of the modern era guitars the 80s to up to about '93 were the best, but you still have to test drive from guitar to guitar to find a good one. My '90 is an amazing guitar, short tennon not withstanding.
I was looking at a '93 Historic from the same dealer but it was in time capsule condition and he wanted 6K for it. He also didn't have a cert for it and it didn't have the Custom Shop tag on the back of the headstock so it was questionable if it was part of the first run, though it did have a long tenon and an AMAZING top. The tops on that range of pre-Historics to the early Historics were amazing...
I find it hard to believe that a Les Paul with a short tennon can be amazing.
Sorry.. I couldn't resist
I think every year has lemons and winners. I picked up a couple of 2017's that are big time winners, best Gibson Guitars I have played in a long time. I love them entirely and hope I never have to part with them.
I'm implying that my lester is made from stank wood. If y'all can't see the humor in that, I certainly won't quit my day job. I'm doubly F'ed cause now I see that from
"80s to up to about '93 were the best" guess my norlin is a POS too.
Its really quite simple- Good wood/ stank wood/ it makes no neva mind cause my lesters give me wood!
BTW gibson usa les pauls since 82/83 have Weight-relief / "swiss cheese holes"
Perhap's that's what makes them mo' betta?
Then it's the age of the story that comes into play, but nevertheless wood comes from trees and there's plenty of variable conditions that can have an affect on it.
I suppose that most like lightness and resonance, and that can be found throughout every year. Dense and heavy can be tone full, and that can be found in every year. As long as verity is available, then it's a "good year".
And we all know that no great classic rock song was ever performed using a Norlin.
Some guy you don't know told you that some guy he doesn't told him...
Sorry, I'm another who calls bs for no other reason that I too don't believe someone there now has been with Gibson since the 70's.
Maybe it was the ghost of Bill Lawrence.
Mine from 2003 ,, Love it
Sorry Meatball, wrong answer. Curse HJ five times as an act of contrition.
Who gets to pick the years to determine if they are good or not? Or do we have a way to measure that?
Well my '06 Standard is great. my 2010 Jr. is pretty dang good.
A month ago I tried out a '16 explorer. Reading all about Gibson's problems, you would expect it to be crap. But it played and sounded great.
A Norlin. Seriously. I saw one once in a pr0n movie. It was just a glimpse, it was propped up in the corner behind the two scissor sisters.
Every year that Gibson has made white guitars that turn yellow, or colored guitars that fade, or coated guitars with a finish that cracks.....those are the bad years.
In other news, Epiphone continues to have very good years.
There all good if you got nothing else.
Yup. Kinda like a fat girl at closing time.
When did Gibson start offering factory tours again?
They don't like to be called colored.