Gibson ‘running out of time — rapidly’

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  1. Bobby Mahogany

    Bobby Mahogany Senior Member

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    Best be a warm stool at that....
     
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  4. northernguitarguy

    northernguitarguy SWeAT hOg

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  6. Bill Hicklin

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    Europeans already pay a 12% import duty on Gibsons.
     
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    That may double or even triple if a full retaliatory 25% tariff is added.
     
  8. ehb

    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    I support a level playing field. If it takes a knot being snatched in some country's ass here and there, so be it. Say we send something to some country for $100 but once there it is tariffed and is now $175. Say that country ships something to the US for $100 but once it gets here, it is still $100. Well, I am about to snatch a knot in your ass over that $75 tax that almost doubles the cost of our product in your country and plus the $75 goes into your country's Gummit's pocket. That is on just ONE item. It's like math. Imagine millions of that item shipped there in one year. Taxes/tariffs go to the Gummit of the country doing it.

    I think the US and Canuckistan should be no tariff either way.

    This country lost gillions of jobs over non-level playing field. Well, it just may get leveled a bit now...

    We once built things for ourselves not too long ago. We still have the talent, machines, and facilities. We can once again build stuff for ourselves. Spin up time will be brief.

    Tax us and we will tax your ass back... Block us, we will block you....

    It's about damn time....
     
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  10. ehb

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    This may push for more actual "free trade" agreements...

    Free trade goes both directions...
     
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    Tariffs are taxes and invite retaliation.
     
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    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    Who are those 'Europeans' ?
    AFAIK we still have customs regulated by each country
    The import duty on any Guitars from outside the EU is 3,7 %
    + the 19%VAT
     
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    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    The EU market is ready to lose Gibson.....
     
  14. northernguitarguy

    northernguitarguy SWeAT hOg

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    Really? I thought Gibson sold well there. Seems Gibson losing the EU would be huge.
     
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    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    Yep.
     
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    When they go bankrupt (and they will go, IMO) we lost them....
     
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    TheX Voice of Reason

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    That would be too logical.
     
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    I think Hankie will cave in the last moment before the fire sale tents and tables are set up in the parking lot, and move on to some 'emeritus' bullshit position with office in the third storage room on the left....in the basement...

    He deserves credit for saving Gib. They were literally about to have to close up shop and do a fire sale. He DID save them and pulled them back up to the top.

    He also deserves credit for dragging them down to about the same level as when he first stepped in to save them....or worse....

    Gib over the decades has driven multiple brands in the ground... Seems like folks would see a freaking pattern by now...
     
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    and a bobble head hula girl on top of the headstock!
     
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    I agree with Peter that bankruptcy appears unavoidable for Gibson. Henry may cave in and leave the company to be sorted out by the creditors, but can THEY save it at this point? I have seen many cases where such a move proves to be only a delay in the inevitable.
     
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