General consensus on routing out vintage Norlin for full size PAF's?

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  1. ARandall

    ARandall Senior Member

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    Well, parallel makes it a humbucker too. And he never mentioned series specifically.

    And ANY p90 can have the mags flipped and reverse wired to do that. You always have to lift the chassis ground in reverse wiring. So doing that with the hookup wires rather than at the pots is the way to go.
     
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    Jeremiah The Worst Premium Member

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    oh I meant out of phase and reverse polarity. I wonder if you can do that with modern P90's, that would rule. I never get to use the middle position.
     
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    cooljuk Transducer Producer Premium Member MLP Vendor

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    Flipping the magnets and wires on one pickup creates a humbucker only in the sense that the middle position would be noise canceling. It's won't create what most have in their mind as a "humbucker sound" mainly because the coils are still wired in parallel. To get noise canceling in the middle, you have to flip both the magnets and unsolder and swap the two black wires coming off the actual coil on only one of the two pickups. It's not something you just can do in the control cavity, but it can be done. I don't recommend it on a vintage instrument unless it's considered necessary for live play and the only way the instrument can be useful to the owner.

    It would also be possible to install "two conductor plus shield" wiring on both pickups, and have some switching to make them humbucking in a more traditional sense, wired up in series with each other. In that case, you'd also have much more than twice as much wire on the coils and four times the magnet of a typical humbucker, as well as having the coils quite far apart. You'd have a humbucker setup wired in series but it would, again, sound nothing like a PAF or what most people think of when they think of a humbucker. Possible, though.
     
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    OOP and reverse polarity are the same thing. Two signals that are electrically reversed from one another. Peter Green tone.
    To make the two signals 'add' you need to be reverse wound too. RW/RP is done in many pickup sets to reduce noise......strats, teles some p90 sets. But in almost every case the switch limits you to parallel pickup selection - hence the cluck or quack tone you hear. In fact in all but the Brian May signature guitar when you select multiple pickup combinations you are running the two coils in parallel.
    There is a switching system that runs the two coils in series in a typical 2 pickup/3 way setup......part of the Jimmy Page wiring scheme. But its cumbersome in that if you want to go back to running 1 pickup you have to disengage the series middle then make your selection.

    Of course you can use slider switches - but these are a PITA too for most people.
     

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