Thanks for your input JAcKedOz, much appreciated I can assure you. Well of course that is the problem..Mortgages,family, jobs etc. Take all that into consideration and there isn't a great deal of time to concentrate on ones music. Back in the 60's and 70's one could make a decent living at playing back in London, but times have changed and I wouldn't want to rely on it now. That's why at some point I realized I could not survive on just gigs alone, plus the fact I was getting older and really didn't want to do all that travelling any more, so I did the next best thing. I supplemented my gigs with teaching and landed myself some good teaching jobs which were very well paid and where I was basically my own boss with local education authorities. Some guys have said to me " How can you do that Phil doesn't it drive you nuts?" Yes, sometimes it does, but then what is the altrnative? Get a day job....Phewww! No thanks, at least I'm still playing guitar and can start and finish when I want and take off any days I want too. It's a great pity, because one of my old friends and probably one of the best jazz electric bass players in the UK told me that he simply didn't have the patience to teach. Since then gigs have dried up in London and he's now down to one regular jazz gig a week and the last time I spoke to him he was cleaning out public toilets to make extra money. You would cry if you heard this guy play..What a bloody waste. These days I still get offered lots of gigs, but most I turn down, as unlike all the years I have been playing and having to take all sorts of work, I can now pick and choose the gigs I want to do and that makes me a lot happier. Most of the time I work with either my daughter, or Mutter Slater from Stackridge. I enjoy gigs with old Mutter as he's an old pro and we just get to a gig..He shouts out a key, then 1--2--3--4 and away we all go. You often get people who come up and say. "Wow! how long have you guys been together?".. We just laugh and say.."Since this afternoon". We may have one drummer one week a different bass player the next, but we can call on a pool of players to suit whatever gig we are doing. People often think the life of a pro player is all about getting laid, drugs and booze... Well I suppose it can be sometimes, but in the main it's a job like any other job and not a fun night out with the lads.It's a job one has to take seriously, because if you don't, you can soon find yourself washed up on the rocks quicker than you could imagine.